• dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world
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      10 hours ago

      Or Israel is so obviously evil that even half the lead poisoned youth of red areas recognizes it shouldn’t be armed.

      Weird how you have to vote third party to actually have any hope of accomplishing that.

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        10 hours ago

        Weird that you think voting third party will accomplish that.

        Although I’d argue that now is definitely the time to vote third party locally, and independent for senate.

        Once the Big Two lose their dominance in those two areas, it will be time to target congress. Then once that’s done and legislative reform is in place, it will be time to target the executive and judiciary.

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          10 hours ago

          I said it has the highest chance of accomplishing that. Not that it will without others also breaking out of the duopoly.

          Neither main party will ever even pause support for Israel, both candidates have made that clear. Therefore there is no chance of them stopping the genocide or even reducing American involvement. In fact both have eagerly fought over who would aide this genocide more.

          Therefore the only possible chance is voting third party or advocate for things against Lemmy’s tos.

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            9 hours ago

            Or… take a longer view and follow the strategy I outlined.

            The Palestine/Israel situation didn’t just start this election cycle; voting third party isn’t going to fix it, or even help the victims at all — in fact, it will likely harm them. But strategically voting over the next four cycles or so could go a long way to improving not just that issue, but many others.

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              9 hours ago

              Yeah that’s cute, you started out correct. Then you used moon logic to assume no one ever did that or thought of doing that.

              You people have been advocating that since the parties hyper normalized, guess what, it hasnt worked out.

              So no. That’s not a thing that works. Strategic voting, lesser evil ism has resulted in both political parties openly advocating for genocide. It has not worked. It did not work in the Weimar Republic, it did not work in England in response to Hitler, its not worked so far here, and it’s not going to.

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                9 hours ago

                I’d be interested to know what sort of “you people” you think I am.

                The problem is, the only thing worse than tweaking a strategy that’s never worked in the past and expecting change is choosing a new strategy that logically will never work, by design, and expecting change.

                Look at history and tell me what was needed to stop the governments of the most powerful nations from supporting genocide overseas.

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      59 minutes ago

      They are partially correct. They don’t want their tax dollars going towards a war they do not benefit off. Even for selfish reasons there is no argument to send billions to Israel. All the oil money is pocketed by the billionaires, the American public doesn’t receive any of it.