I haven’t quite understood, what LiveKit has to do with video conferencing. Isn’t that just some weird AI thingy?

Liberapay, Kofi

Are you joking, or are you actually serious?

It’s not AI, just look at the linked artist’s profile. This is definetely from an actual artist.

I think your comparison to slavery is a bit overblown and minimizes the tragedy of actual slavery. But I agree with the sentiment.

Yeah, it can definetely be a great solution, but the idea for this was specifically to be more independent from big tech. We already habdle stuff like registering for camps over Office 365, but I wanted to introduce Nextcloud to replace that, because I don’t think it’s a good idea to let Microsoft handle personal data of like a hundred people, that probably don’t even know, that they are giving away their data to Microsoft there. But again, I don’t wanna judge anyone for using things like that, Nextcloud can be a pain to maintain, especially for non technical people.

Yeah, I guess the plan would be (if we decide to use an old labtop) to have a similar backup system to my home server, so one daily incremental backup with something like borgbackup to a newly bought external hard drive and automated updates using watchtower (I heard major nextcloud upgrades can be tricky though, so I an not shure if it would be a good idea to automate those). I guess it would still suck if the laptop unexpectedly failed and we would have to scramble to find new hardware though, how long would you expect an old laptop to last as a server?

Yeah, I totally get what you mean, I am kind of expecting that aswell, but at least I know, that other scouts groups in the area already have a nextcloud and it is actively beeing used, so I have some hopes in that regard. But yeah, getting them to use something like Matrix is probably pretty unrealistic.

Yeah, that would kind of be my plan: To ask in one post for submissions, filter out the valid ones and then let the community vote on only the valid ones. I hope, that the mods will accept the results though, for that to work, we need big support from the community, so that I have a convincing argument

How would you know that?

Well, of course everyone that disagrees with these people is a bot, lol

Nope, you can’t train a good diffusion model from scratch with just a few thousand images, that is just delusion (I am open for examples though). Adobe Firefly is a black box, so we can’t verify their claims, obviously they wouldn’t admit, if they broke copyright to train their models. We do however have strong evidence, that google, openai and stability AI used tons of images, which they had no licence to use. Also, I still doubt that all of the people, who sold on Adobe Stock either knew, what their photos are gonna be used for or explicitly wanted that or just had to accept it to be able to sell their work.

Great counterargument to my first argument by the way 👏

Well, but you are not of an opposing ideology, your sub is called “ask Lemmy”, not “ask AI obsessed people”, so your definition doesn’t even make sense. I honestly don’t understand why you people insist on painting me in such a negative light, just because I am new. That is called bullying by the way. I didn’t even intend this thread to blow up in such a way, I guess a lot of people seem to care.

You know that the painter behind a stary night is long dead and this work is public domain, right?

It’s not about anyone getting paid, it’s about affording basic respect and empathy to people and their work. Using AI sends a certain message of 'I don’t care about your consent or opinion towards me using your art", and I don’t think, that this is a good thing for anyone.

Well, obviusly I care. I joined Lenny today, yes. I joined this sub and was immediately a bit disgusted by the banner. So I made a post about it. Why do you care if I care then?

Well, you didn’t even make it or anyone, an AI made it. Kindness towards artists and not kindness towards people using their art without consent.

Yes it does, for the reasons I mentioned

Uhm, yeah… That was the whole point, I was making.

Yeah, maybey it would be a good idea to have a new community vote. Can I just start that or do I have to ask the mods or something? I am pretty new to Lemmy, so I am not really shure how this works.