• TootGuitar@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    What is your Spirit? Can you describe its properties and offer some evidence to show the rest of us that it exists? How do you know you received an answer to your prayers? How might someone else replicate this experience?

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      There certainly is a replication process, as found in the Book of Moroni (a section within the Book of Mormon), chapter 10, verses 4 & 5

      "4.And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

      5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things."

      As for knowing it was my Spirit feeling an impression, it’s much the same as people knew what emotions were long before we could see activity in the brain; through experience we can recognize and understand it even though it does not as yet appear on a scan.

      To paraphrase a church scholar Hugh Nibley, it’s not that science and https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gospel-library/id598329798 contractadict, but that incomplete religion and incomplete science do. Complete religion and complete science work fine together.

      For properties, we go to Doctrine and Covenants (another standard work in our church), section 93, verse 29

      “29 Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be”

      In other words, the building blocks are intelligences. Now, when those intelligences come together, they can be formed into a Spirit.

      Moving to section 131, verses 7 and 8

      "7 There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes;

      8 We cannot see it; but when our bodies are purified we shall see that it is all matter"

      To reframe my experience then, the Holy Ghost, a member of the Godhead along with Jesus Christ and The Father (who are separate beings), spoke to my Spirit in a way I can sense and understand internally but, much like emotions before brain scanning, I cannot show.

      Certainly happy to answer more questions (though I will be on the road today).

      There is an app that contains all our standard works and will make finding these and other references easier. I believe there is also a section for Gospel Topics

      https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gospel-library/id598329798

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.lds.ldssa&hl=en_US&gl=US

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        1 year ago

        Every single one of the things you mentioned are claims, not evidence. Maybe I can rephrase my question:

        When I buy a delicious Share Size Snickers bar at the 7-11, I see on the package that it claims that the bar weighs 3.86 ounces. It feels a little light to me; I am skeptical of the fact that this particular Share Size Snickers bar weighs what it claims on the package. My options are:

        1. Take the weight printed on the package as the truth and don’t question it any further;
        2. Put the bar on a scale and measure its weight independently, to confirm whether the weight is correct.

        With regard to religion, you appear to be doing only #1, and I’m asking how I can do #2. What are the tools and evidence I can use, akin to the scale, that are independent of the religious text (= the Snickers wrapper) and can show me that your claims are valid?