• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    16 hours ago

    That would explain Chinese dominance in vehicles in general, not EVs in particular.

    Do ya see a bunch of Chinese ICE vehicles running around?

    Also, Chinese EV manufacturing facilities are so efficient precisely because they’re so incredibly highly automated

    They’re efficient because they have no concept of workers’ rights or IP. Not because they’re a country full of geniuses, and not because Big Oil is keeping them down, regardless of your opinion on China.

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      8 hours ago

      There are plenty of Chinese ICE vehicles, what on earth are you talking about ? MG got rolling here in the UK with ICE before releasing hybrids and EVs, Chery only have ICE and hybrids here etc etc Same in Australia with BYD and the rest.

      You’re poorly informed.

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      16 hours ago

      Nah, you’re just a propagandized westerner who hasn’t done the most cursory research on the degree of automation in Chinese EV industry. Enjoy malding in your ignorance while your country’s industry crashes and burns

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        16 hours ago

        That China has terrible workers rights is a fact. That China also has a lot of automation is an unrelated fact that is also true.

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            25 minutes ago

            Chinese EVs are cheaper because the control the supply chain from mining to battery production. It has nothing to do with automation or cheaper labor, US plants are all automated. Chinese cars need to cost more for transport.

            It is impossible to build lower cost cars in the US with healthcare costs, and Trump has only made that worse. US is the only country that ties healthcare to employment.

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            14 hours ago

            Mostly. Price is a complex problem. Cost is a floor factor and automation affects that somehow. It is hard to know when automation lower prices as this depends on relative labor costs which have been going up in China.

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            13 hours ago

            Its unrelated to a conversation about the oil industry and lobbyists, obviously, yes.

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        13 hours ago

        The degree of automation is not relevant to a discussion about why they’re being kept out of other countries, or anything to do with Big Oil.