• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    And it turns out, the rest of the world does not care about yankees being shot in the streets or put in cages, because what is happening in the US today is what the US was doing to everyone else yesteryear. All they see are the chickens coming home.

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      Even the people who immigrated here, because they had no other choice? Because of the wars America ravaged in their country and the economies America ruined, people in desperation come to America, and are persecuted here. These people deserve it?

      Children deserve it? People who had no choice deserve it?

      So you’re in favor of Trump?

      That’s pretty fucked. I’m glad you live in a country that’s never done anything wrong and can make such a judgement call.

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        The yankees got what they voted for, now choke on it. A better world is possible, but the US has to go.

        If you don’t like it, do something about it. Yankees are also the people in the best position to do something about the suffering the US causes, both to themselves and to the world. They have a world historic responsibility to fight for that better world, or die trying.

        How lucky, that they get to be the ones to save the world, if they would just fucking do it.

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          I’m saying there’s people here who didn’t vote for it, couldn’t vote for it, and are suffering for it, and you’re happy about it.

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            They pay taxes to it. They sell their labor to it. They buy commodities from it. The empire relies on their complicity to even function, without their participation they could shut it down. Their complicity can’t be handwaved simply because they’re unhappy about it.

            Even now their country is basically starting WW3 and the streets are empty. Where are the protests? Not a peep.

            Maybe they haven’t suffered enough.

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              Kids don’t pay taxes or any of that.

              And there were protests, record breaking ones, and guess what?

              People sat around saying it wasn’t enough and wouldn’t amount to anything and that protests were pointless.

              You have some real privilege to think that people have enough resources to just stop working for months, long enough to shut the whole system down, and some real ignorance if you think that’s going to be enough.

              Real innocence if you think the bastards who live here will just take it, or even stay here.

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                It wouldn’t take months. They did it in Minnesota when ICE started killing people. It was literally one day of no work, no school, no shopping - tens of thousands in the streets. And guess what? It lead to it lead to several resignations of prosecutors and Trump appointees, and ICE deployments retreated to pre-surge levels. Real, concrete results when people took to the streets.

                But now the streets are empty because everyone is just waiting for the Midterms; they think voting will save them.

                Maybe it will. Maybe Trump won’t be able to rig or cancel the elections, and then a divided government will make Trump a lame duck president.

                Just don’t be shocked when voting doesn’t work this time, and be prepared to learn from the Minnesota general strike. Workers run the country and they can shut it down whenever they want, they just have to be organized enough to use that power.

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                  19 hours ago

                  It’s all pointless anymore though. Rich people still and will still own everything, everyone’s going to hate your average citizen even if everything gets fixed because it happened in the first place, people will still cheer about kids being put into cages on the right because they are racist and other people will cheer because “they’re Americans they deserve it.” We can’t even agree or organize in a small Internet community. The Left can’t take any criticism and see it as an attack so our side becomes stagnant and inept through purity testing.

                  So yeah you’re right we all deserve it regardless of our age, participation, action or attempts to rebel or fix it, everyone’s a monster.

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                    What attempts to rebel or fix it? The streets are empty. That’s what the world sees, and that’s my point. Most political activity happening right now is online, with the exception of some people showing up to townhalls to oppose data centers and lone wolves tearing down Flock cameras. The masses in the US are waiting for voting to fix everything and it’s sad.

                    But these are interesting times. These elections might not go the way previous elections have, and what then? Will yankees just quietly put their heads down and obey like they have been? Or will they actually fight back, like they did in Minnesota?

                    To quote Che Guevara: "I envy you. You North Americans are very lucky. You are fighting the most important fight of all.
                    You live in the belly of the beast.”