• determinism2 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      The only horseshoe theory is “america isn’t a democracy” and the critical difference is the appendment of “and that’s good, actually”.

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        I hope that there’s a huge blue wave, and it stays blue, just so that I can say to them “America is a Constitutional Democracy, not a Republic”.

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          Can we get some non-Third Way blues? Some people that actually oppose the military industrial complex, and will actually push renewables over the coal, gas, and crude that’s broiling our planet alive? 'Cause if we don’t, I sure as shit won’t be part of that wave. This current crop of dems can either get right or get gone.

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            We have those in Congress. It’s just that there’s more conservative wing of Democratic Party is more numerous, and there’s the issue of batshit-crazy right-wingers on the Republican side. Republican Party has to be extinct before left-wingers has a more significant foothold.

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              Republican Party has to be extinct before left-wingers has a more significant foothold.

              How y’all plan to do that with the ‘more numerous’ Democrats obstructing progressive ideals just as staunchly, if not moreso than the Republicans? I don’t sell out where I stand to gain nothing; and my left hand to my gods, my right hand to my ancestors, I see no one currently worth even temporary alliance in the current day Democrat party, exactly like I see the Republicans.

              As it stands, I’d rather the whole shit fell apart than sell my principles for nil to ghoul barbarians who will waste that support, as well as my tax money, on endless war, endless subjugation, and endless climate change.

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                Easy. Voting left-wing on the down ballot and putting the better of the two on top. And it works over time.

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                  I’m telling you there is no better, and the people you’d have me pencil-whip will waste the support, and my tax money. What’s your plan? What’s your party willing to concede? 'Cause right now, it sounds like a whole lot of nothing on offer for the invalidation of everything I believe in.

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                    And a single person isn’t going to change my mind, and you haven’t offered anything. How you vote is your prerogative, not mine. Would you like to try again?