Dan Gillmor (@dangillmor@mastodon.social)
mastodon.world
It is essential to stop using Chrome. Under the pretense of saving users from third-party spyware, Google is creating an ecosystem in which Chrome itself is the spyware. Given Google's overwhelming presence in the browser market, this is unconscionable. We should all despise the ad-tech business, and have no sympathy for the companies getting whacked by Google's actions. But we should not permit one monopolist to replace them all. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/year-review-googles-corporate-paternalism-browser
  • spudwart@spudwart.comEnglish
    312·
    11 months ago

    We really need more browser engines floating around.

    As of now we really only have 3, Webkit, Firefox Gecko, and Chromium Blink.

    Everything is based on these 3. And I know, technically chromium and firefox are both based on webkit, but they’re so far gone from webkit they function as their own engines.

      • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        I doubt that’s what they meant since Safari currently uses WebKit. But yeah, maybe they meant how WebKit is a fork of KHTML and Chrome is a fork of WebKit.

      • excitingburp@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        Ultimately you really only have KHTML (what Webkit was forked from), Gecko, Triton (IE classic), and I can’t recall what the new (now dead) engine in IE11 was called. The rest are forks, mostly of Webkit/KHTML.

        I guess there’s Ladybird and Servo too, but they are a way still from being used as a daily driver.

    • kib48@lemm.eeEnglish
      151·
      11 months ago

      tbh i think it would be better if there was a single collaborative engine instead, owned by a non-profit company like The Linux Foundation

      maybe the W3C could establish their own but idk if they even do anything these days

      • piecat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        215·
        11 months ago

        Embrace extend extinguish

        It’s almost already too late at this point

        • mob@lemmy.worldEnglish
          331·
          11 months ago

          Not going to lie, I really hate when the internet gets a new favorite phrase. Destroys discussion on the subjects and feels like it’s a race for commenters to say the hit phrase.

          • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
            186·
            11 months ago

            Lemmy is chock full of stupid people on the right team for the wrong reasons. They treat switching to Linux and FF the same way someone would declare they gave their life to Jesus Christ.

            Most of them can’t even explain why something is good or bad without resorting to the catch phrase of the day. “Enshittification”, “EEE”, “Chrome bad cuz capitalism or something, gib updoots.”

          • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
            517·
            11 months ago

            If what you were gonna say is quashed by people knowing the big corpo tricks and treachery, then chances are what you had to say served no interests but corpo interest to begin with.

            • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
              141·
              11 months ago

              Username checks out.

              Maybe we’re just tired of sheep. Even sheep that happened to end up on the right side.

        • phillaholic@lemm.eeEnglish
          9·
          11 months ago

          It’s not. In the late 90s it was pretty much just IE after Netscape died. Mozilla came from the ashes.

          • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            11 months ago

            Literally. It was originally built on the Netscape engine before making Gecko and transitioning to that.