• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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    9 months ago

    Same solution as people faced under every oppressive regime. Organize, educate, and build a worker movement. You can start reading about how worker movements were organized in US back in 1930s that lead to the New Deal.

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      9 months ago

      Sure, and I’m amazed to see the recent resurgence in successful union organization. I was told about company towns in high school, but what they didn’t teach me in high school is how those company towns were defeated. You’re right, I love that alternative. Now how do I wake up my friends and neighbors? I’ve been woken up to the dangers here. They haven’t, and when I attempt, they resist like I’m asking them to put on the glasses.

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        9 months ago

        Not everybody is going to be receptive, especially if they’re not experiencing the problems you’re concerned with themselves. The best strategy is to focus on people who are already starting to question things and to help them develop a better understanding of what’s happening and what effective actions they can take. Ultimately, every movement starts with a few people and then grows as the ideas spread. It’s very likely there are orgs around you that you could participate with. So, that’s certainly something to consider.

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          9 months ago

          How best can I identify these people? I’ve made it clear I don’t trust the internet or “apps” or whatever. Nobody seems to want to communicate or meet up face-to-face or via any other trustworthy medium for a huge variety of reasons, most predominantly simple inconvenience, which is… disheartening. I’ve tried organizing directly in my workplaces before. I’ve been “unofficially warned” several times and outright fired twice. I’ve gone to city council meetings which were remarkably similar to parks and rec’s representation without the comic relief. I’ve tried speaking directly with my neighbors as tenants, who are usually totally disinterested because, like you stated, they aren’t experiencing the same problems, or, because of political affiliation, are actively hostile to the proposal. The one guy I spoke to that was actually interested in principle said that the legal protections afforded to tenant organizations in my state were so poor that it positively allows retaliation, and that he didn’t feel safe organizing under those conditions, which I can’t blame him for. Organizing with the democrats is… Well, I don’t organize with the democrats, despite my nose-holding at the polling station.

          So how do I identify these people? Where are they? I’m genuinely terrified of approaching the “wrong” person. I’m also apprehensive about being a leader, which I fear is actually called for in this situation since I don’t see anyone else stepping up to take a swing around here.

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            9 months ago

            The question you’re asking is probably the most important question that needs to be asked right now. How to organize and how to find like minded people is something that’s the first step towards any real change.

            I can’t help you with the specifics since I have no idea what the situation is like in your area. In my city there are a number of socialist orgs, and they meet face to face. I definitely think any actual serious organizing needs to happen offline, and if people can’t be bothered to make even the effort to meet in person it’s safe to say they’re not really serious about effecting any actual change. Perhaps look if there are organizations that meet up to do mutual aid, help homeless people, and so on. There must be shelters where people volunteer at to help. Getting involved and talking with people like that would be a good start.

            If there really is nothing around you and you genuinely feel motivated enough to organize people then stepping up might be the thing to do. To do that you have to first figure out what your politics actually are. How you think things should work, how they work now, why the problems you see exist, and how you think they should be solved. It’s also worth thinking about why current movements in US are failing and what you think needs to be done differently to succeed. The reality is that there are millions of people just like yourself who are in the same situation as you. And as long as people stay atomized and isolated, then they stay powerless.

            Unfortunately, there’s no recipe that you can follow here, and there’s no guarantee of success. This is a process of trying things, evaluating the results, and iterating on what you’re doing. Good news is that there are lots of examples of successful worker movements around the world that can be learned from. There are no easy answers here, but the only way that’s guaranteed to fail is to do nothing but vote every 4 years.

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                9 months ago

                Glad to help. I can very much relate to the frustration you’re feeling. I live in Canada, and a lot of the same dynamics are happening here as well. Each and every year things get worse, and there’s no clear path to change. What I’ve come to realize is that meaningful change takes time. It’s not something that will happen as a result of a one time action like winning an election and putting your guy in charge. It’s a long process that requires long term commitment. People in US are just entering the stage where they’re starting to become politically aware and to ask questions about why things are the way they are. It’s going to take time for people to develop solid understanding of the issues and to learn to work together towards solving them.

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                  9 months ago

                  It’s a shame. I’ve always thought of canada as a sort-of bastion on this continent against america’s peculiar brand of bipolar insanity. To watch so many of your people fall into the throes of exported trumpism is truly saddening, though I guess the fact that it did take root means the ground was already prepared. You have my empathy.

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                    9 months ago

                    Thanks, and you’re absolutely right that right wing populism is taking root because there is fertile ground for it. In my view, the question of why people are becoming increasingly enamoured with these ideas is the one that really needs to be asked more. People like Trump have always been around, so what factors are enabling these opportunists today that didn’t exist previously. The systemic pressures leading us where we are today are the real problem that needs to be addressed.