• Mango@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    You’re also responsible for what you do when you’re drunk! Guess what. You cannot purchase ethical excuses. That’s YOUR Tesla. You own it. You’re in charge of it regardless of whether or not Tesla makes it impossible to access the controls.

    Buyer beware. Stop buying proprietary garbage, ya idiots.

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      6 months ago

      Unfortunately there is no car that isn’t proprietary and even ones without “auto pilot” have things like collision detection that can slam on the breaks for you.

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        6 months ago

        You’re clearly not looking hard enough. Maybe you just prefer a dangerous road where nobody takes responsibility?

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          What? No, I want people to be responsible because that is what works.

          Search “car slams breaks in false positive collision detection”. There are loads of stories. Mine beeps sometimes, but thankfully doesn’t apply the breaks itself.

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            6 months ago

            Yes and that’s bad. I’m with you on all that. You CAN however find plenty of cars without all that. It just really limits your selection.

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              6 months ago

              Even modern cars don’t all have self drive and collision avoidance. I’ve driven a few new cars recently and none do more than flash messages and beep when they forsee a crash.

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        6 months ago

        There are high quality reliable cars that still run great from the early to mid 2000s. They are very inexpensive compared to modern vehicles. May cost a bit more in gas.

        You control them completely

        Didn’t he preach in the past that NOT using automated driving systems would be completely unsafe?

        Confidence Man!

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          Even those are riddled with proprietary devices. Cars have had a CAN bus network of devices for decades. These closed smarts alone have caused things like the emissions scandal. These alone interfere with right to repair and competition. What is new is the spying and direct control, but the problem is older than that.

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      6 months ago

      Good luck buying any car then. Tesla is the worst of the worst in that regard, but they’re all bad these days.