Right? Who will think of the children! Before computer porn, we used to imagine our classmates, TV hosts, celebrities, and neighbors. Now that (imagination) was a valuable skill!
(I mean, some would also cut&paste faces from one photo onto another, with scissors and glue… but most just used our imagination)
You can’t publicly share nudes from your imagination or pass them out to your friends with five minutes work, something you basically definitionallly have to be doing in order to get caught.
Revenge porn is absolutely a serious method of harassment that does routinely end in suicide even for adults, and it is absurd to compare making it so easy that kids can do it to someone they’ve never talked to in minutes to fantasizing about their classmates.
Revenge porn was there before AI… but somewhat ironically, as more people are likely to label anything from SFX, to game renders, to the lunar landing, as “AI”… even actual recordings of porn used for revenge, are more likely to be dismissed as “just AI”, reducing its impact (no more Kardashians).
People should still take responsibility for educating their little brats, which has nothing to do with whether it’s AI, gun ownership, or “just” bullying.
The issue is that AI has made it so much easier that more people are doing it. The AI cat is out of the bag, but it could do with some tangible legislation
So, like what kind of legislation? All the problematic uses of AI, already have legislation against them. I don’t see any viable “anti-AI” legislation, just enforce the one already in place. Meanwhile, strengthening prevention and responsibility rules, would benefit all aspects of society, including the uses of AI.
Limiting what that data can be trained on for one. No pictures of kids for example. For porn specific AIs, don’t allow users to upload custom images. That is just asking for revenge porn or CSAM. Companies clearly can’t be trusted to put in safeguards for themselves, so I guess it is time for legislation.
Keep in mind that training data is required for both recognition, and generation. Legislating that kids “It doesn’t look like anything to me”, leads to things like:
Cars that don’t stop for “It doesn’t look like anything to me”
Spam filters that don’t stop porn, or gore, or both, of “It doesn’t look like anything to me”
Photo storage that erases empty photos which “It doesn’t look like anything to me”
For porn specific AIs, don’t allow users to upload custom images
Not sure how you think AIs work, but anyone can train a LoRa on their own laptop, no “uploading” to anywhere required.
Companies clearly can’t be trusted to put in safeguards for themselves, so I guess it is time for legislation.
Cool, and I agree with that. I just think that example is horrific (for starters, it would make Lemmy’s anti-CSAM filter illegal, since it’s trained on pictures of kids).
I think it’s funny you talk about revenge porn like it’s just so tiresome and tedious to think about.
“Oh, a hurricane struck Florida again.”
“Oh, there’s revenge porn of my neighbor’s daughter again.”
“What a terrible saturday.”
“Anyway, I think my toast is done.”
Hang on. Are you actually saying that making fake porn of teenagers without their consent is a good thing because it teaches valuable skills?!
Right? Who will think of the children! Before computer porn, we used to imagine our classmates, TV hosts, celebrities, and neighbors. Now that (imagination) was a valuable skill!
(I mean, some would also cut&paste faces from one photo onto another, with scissors and glue… but most just used our imagination)
You can’t publicly share nudes from your imagination or pass them out to your friends with five minutes work, something you basically definitionallly have to be doing in order to get caught.
Revenge porn is absolutely a serious method of harassment that does routinely end in suicide even for adults, and it is absurd to compare making it so easy that kids can do it to someone they’ve never talked to in minutes to fantasizing about their classmates.
Hey, you don’t know how fast I can draw, internet person!
Revenge porn was there before AI… but somewhat ironically, as more people are likely to label anything from SFX, to game renders, to the lunar landing, as “AI”… even actual recordings of porn used for revenge, are more likely to be dismissed as “just AI”, reducing its impact (no more Kardashians).
People should still take responsibility for educating their little brats, which has nothing to do with whether it’s AI, gun ownership, or “just” bullying.
The issue is that AI has made it so much easier that more people are doing it. The AI cat is out of the bag, but it could do with some tangible legislation
So, like what kind of legislation? All the problematic uses of AI, already have legislation against them. I don’t see any viable “anti-AI” legislation, just enforce the one already in place. Meanwhile, strengthening prevention and responsibility rules, would benefit all aspects of society, including the uses of AI.
Limiting what that data can be trained on for one. No pictures of kids for example. For porn specific AIs, don’t allow users to upload custom images. That is just asking for revenge porn or CSAM. Companies clearly can’t be trusted to put in safeguards for themselves, so I guess it is time for legislation.
Meaning, an AI blind to kids.
Keep in mind that training data is required for both recognition, and generation. Legislating that kids “It doesn’t look like anything to me”, leads to things like:
Not sure how you think AIs work, but anyone can train a LoRa on their own laptop, no “uploading” to anywhere required.
Cool, and I agree with that. I just think that example is horrific (for starters, it would make Lemmy’s anti-CSAM filter illegal, since it’s trained on pictures of kids).
Got any other proposals?
I think it’s funny you talk about revenge porn like it’s just so tiresome and tedious to think about.
“Oh, a hurricane struck Florida again.”
“Oh, there’s revenge porn of my neighbor’s daughter again.”
“What a terrible saturday.”
“Anyway, I think my toast is done.”
Feel free to partake in the tediousness:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashian_family
It was tedious trash back then, and 17 years of beating a dead horse hasn’t made it any less tedious.