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Part 1.

A real revolution is never simple, and the path to every real revolution is universally met with panic and confusion from all sides, just as it did in this instance: fear, derision, doubt, apathy, all of the above, all at once, for those who remained at reddit, the fear of the unknown, despair. After all, reddit was supposed to be the end-all-be-all of Internet forums, where all of the Internet’s good talkings can come together into one singular place, the sweet, succulent gems upon its many branches, ripe for the picking for the unwashed masses. So, as redditors stand in open revolt against their administration, reddit’s decayed snag crumbling down to cinders and ashes as it burns bright against the coming darkness of the night, I’ve seen many of us who made it over on this side ask: “Why won’t they simply leave, and finally be free of it all?”

After a few days of being away from that accursed trash fire, the answer to this question (unlike a real revolution) turned out to be quite simple: The fear of the unknown, despair.

Part 2.

Once upon a time, there was Facebook, where you talked with your friends and your-not-quite-friends and your family and that random asshole you’ve added for reasons that you forgot but it would be too awkward to unfriend now. Back then, it was all vacation photos and party pics and status updates and family drama; it wasn’t perfect, it wasn’t anything remotely close to good “content”, but it was real, it was sincere, and it was cool. Then came the link sharing, and the algorithmic feeds, and the Farmville and Mafia Wars boost requests, and we were shocked and hurt that the people whom we thought loved and cared for us actually wanted nothing more than to yell at us and sell us things and get more points on some kind of boring clicking game, furiously refreshing the page every 15 minutes, on the dot, to watch a number go up. And so, we left in pain, lost and confused, until we found a place, a refuge in the shades, it’s raw, and confusing, and crashes a lot, but a place where nobody cared who you once were, where you are free to be anyone, even yourself, especially yourself. And then, we looked at cat pictures and asked each other about the sxiest sx we’ve ever s*xed and ran around airports shouting when the narwhal bacons and argued about whatever colors that dress is, and all is good again.

And then we’ve reddit all.

Reddit! The beast, the roots that binds, that was and will forever remain a scar upon our spirits; while we can cut off the reddit without, we cannot cut out the reddit within, its creeping tendrils tangled and gnarled across our true selves. Being a “redditor” was not only an identity, but an insidious mindset, that at first slithered, then wrapped around, then finally beaten into, our very selves, then shaped and formed us until we’ve accepted its madness as routine, that somehow, somehow, our cumulative value on the Web is not in the human connections we’ve made, but is instead something worthless, to be grounded up and rendered down into a number, POINTS, and we reduced ourselves back down to yelling and selling things and getting more points on some kind of boring clicking game, furiously refreshing the page every 15 minutes, on the dot, to watch a number go up, so we hate us, as we hate them.

Worthless. Internet. Points.

Karma. An appropriate name, what goes around comes around.

More than a decade ago, redditors laughed, jeered, and mocked “15 Million Merits” on “Black Mirror”, at the absurdity, the beat-you-over-the-top-of-the-head directness of the message, without even a single shred of irony, as we each sat on our respective stationary bikes to churn out “content”, selling our real selves daily to the highest bidder on the subreddits, all for the good of “our” reddit. And so starved for human interaction we’ve became that over and over we came to grovel and fawn over the first buffoon that shows up, the peddlers of fear and outrage, grotesque mockeries of kindness and honesty clad in gold leaves and man-skin, whispering into our ears that “things are going to be different this time,” and when it turns out nothing changed and everything is wrong and everybody knows that everything is wrong and the advertisers get antsy that everybody knows that everything is wrong and their precious content cattle are not being milked for “content” quickly enough anymore, the Red Names shows up from behind the curtains (to wild applause usually, I might add) to shuffles some other Red Names around, and promises that “things are going to be different this time,” then everybody clapped, some of us grumbled under our breathes “nothing is ever going to change,” as we all sat right back down on our stationary bikes, and the daily grind for “content” begins once more.

There once was a screenshot of a 4chan post floating around the Internet that described reddit as a failed democracy, where the loudest, dumbest voice always wins. But it should be clear as day now that its entire premise was wrong: There was never an “our” reddit; beneath the facade of “democracy” reddit was, is, and always will be, a feudal system, where the Red Names (oh so kindly) provided the land and feed and troughs to milk us away as content cattle for their precious, precious advertisers. We are always meant to package and sell ourselves for the good of “our” reddit, and for that, they’ve made us loud, and they’ve made us dumb, and they’ve made us hate, so we must stay: After all, all of our friends are stuck here with us, where else can we go? Redditors do not belong outside reddit, and redditors will never escape reddit.

We’ve been worked so frail and weak for who knows how long that when some of us finally made up our mind to take a break and touch some grass and smell the flowers and see the sunlight again its brilliance burned and blinded us, as we stood there, stunned, like the way we used to, before we became redditors all those years ago, lost and confused, unsure of what to do, or where to go.

Many of us did try to take the next shaky step towards freedom, to finally be rid of reddit once and for all, but we just ended up setting up the stationary bikes and smearing the reddit within to these new places, and polluted them, and choked them, and killed them, and held a parade with them, and took selfies with them, and reposted them on reddit, and buried them, and came back with more venom and vitriol and more reddit than ever before, ultimately learning nothing. Because, as it turns out, building a better reddit for redditors was never going to work, it doesn’t matter if you add JPEGs or crypto or as-an-AI-language-models or blockchains or cartoon dress up dolls, because reddit has already buried its twisted roots deep within our very selves, so that even now, people are showing up on this side, full of the same venom and vitriol, ready to set up those same stationary bikes again.

“Things are going to be different this time,” they said.

Let me repost an old reddit favorite: Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?

I will now tell you. To be a redditor is insanity.

To be a redditor is to be an arrogant know-it-all, engaging in pointless “debates” not to find understanding, but to “win”, to make a farce of everyone and everything for any, all, or no reason, and then turns upon itself as the circlejerk ensues, and then the counter-jerks, and then the counter-counter-jerks, ad infinitum.

To be a redditor is a snake eating its own tail.

To be a redditor is to be the first person to giddily racing to post the latest tragedy or comedy or whatever song and dance it is that day, just to watch your Merits go up for your daily dopamine rush, screaming at the top of your lungs: “LOOK AT MY POINTS! I MATTER!”

To be a redditor is to be the first one to reply “this” or some other nonsensical in-joke, or build heartless, mindless machines to automate “this”, in hopes of getting a trickling down of leftover Merit/JPEGs from the kind strangers.

To be a redditor is the annoying pun chains. No, you did nazi that coming, we’ve reddit, we’ve reddit many, many times.

To be a redditor is to assume the worst in everyone without cause, out of sheer indifference or laziness or both, and lock yourself inside your echo chamber, away from the world, where you won’t be hurt, or hurt others, ever again.

To be a redditor is to have your PR person copypaste canned responses to fake questions asked by even faker accounts, written by a team of writers or even heartless, mindless machines, a script which had gone through multiple writes, focus groups, rewrites, and focus groups, for the sole purpose of promoting my latest movie, “Barbie”, opening only in theaters July 21st.

And above all else, to be a redditor is to be a cynic. To be a redditor is the nihilistic self-loathing for what-could-have-beens. To be a redditor is to despair, despair over the way that things are is the best that it’s ever going to be, despair over that nothing will ever change, the fear of the unknown, despair, for all of eternity.

Despair is the enemy of progress.

[Continued in comments.]

  • Margot Robbie@lemmy.worldOP
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    This is my eulogy to reddit. It was originally a lot more spiteful, but then I realized: “I really did love that place.”

    After all, I went there every day.

    I’m someone who is so sick and tired of being so sick and tired of everything in the world, so I decided to start liking things again.

    This should be a place for people, not hatred.

    I can’t save everyone from hatred, I don’t know if I can even save myself, but I’m sure as hell going to try.

    “Barbie” is probably going to be a fun movie. I don’t know. Do what you want.

  • Arotrios@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    @MargotRobbie I’m getting PTSD from this post, and an urge to say “this”. You’ve officially become my favorite version of Margot Robbie (although Harley Robbie is close on your heels).

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    [Cont.]

    Part 3.

    I’d like to believe Steve Huffman was like many of us once, bright eyed and optimistic, a boy who wanted nothing more than build his own little corner on the Internet with his friends for everybody to share the shiny gems they found on the beaches, and I’d also like to look into his weary “grown-up” eyes now, those dopey dead eyes he wears to his recent press photo-shoots, as he watches his PR person copypaste canned response into his AMA to fake questions asked by even faker accounts, like the many, many celebrities on r/IAMA had done before and will do after him, to see if there is any of that light remaining, after he is beaten and molded and shaped by the very monster he created. I won’t expect anything from them, after all, even free work isn’t good enough for Steve Huffman anymore. There truly is no one who hates redditors more than redditors, and as the founder of reddit, it would stand that Steve Huffman, u/spez, the CEO of reddit inc., the corporate stooge in the spotlight, is the reddit-est redditor of us all, so we hate him, as he hates us.

    But for those of us who made it here, the time for cynicism and self-loathing is over, because the time for reddit is over, and now it’s finally time to let reddit burn, and its finally time to watch reddit die. We are witnessing a time for change, a return to the beginnings of the Internet, the true coming of Web 3.0, away from the big tech and blockchains and metaverse and ChatGPTs of this cold, dark world, back to a place is still raw, and confusing, and crashes a lot, but where everything and everyone is genuine and human again, while still acknowledging, not erasing, the collective reddit moments of our past. A time where we can post a cat picture just because we wanted to post a cat picture; A time where we can share something we made and somebody will look at it and we can have a nice conversation about it; A time where we are free to be anyone on the Internet, and laugh, and cry, and finally be ourselves, especially ourselves, again. This is a revolt, a defiant cry into the coming darkness of the night, not just against reddit, but also against the reddit within, and as with all real revolutions, it’s really confusing right now, there is no certainty, no telling if Lemmy or Kbin or even the Fediverse will win out in the end. The path ahead for us is exciting, but long and difficult, full of thorns and bramble, but there’s hope. There is always hope, hope that we may fully make it over and see the beauty of the sunrise once more.

    My hope is that the users and the mods and the admins here, there, and everywhere, should discuss, act, engage, argue, and moderate, with a human touch in all things, making this place first and foremost a place for people, not names, or bots, or points, or whatever else they may come up with in the future, so that we can finally break the cycle of cynicism once and for all, and to live mindfully and enthusiastically, with great sincerity.

    And perhaps one day, the roots that binds the Red Name of u/spez, redditor prime, will shrivel and wither and crumble as dust in the wind, like the names of many redditors before and after him, and Steve Huffman, with the light returning to his eyes, may again learn to be to the boy on the beach he once was.

    Because to be a redditor was a mistake, but to make mistakes is human.

    And to be a lemming is to be sincere. Hopefully.

    Uplemmies to the left, I need my Merits for my daily dopamine rush now.

  • dox@lemmy.world
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    And what’s so wrong about boring clicking games…?

    All jokes aside, these two parts (as well as part three) perfectly describe how I’ve been experiencing social media as well. The same goes for Whatsapp since the Facebook / Meta take-over, where suddenly everything needs to be connected to one specific platform to formulate profiles where advertisers could pick and choose the customers they would like to address.

    Anyways, came to this post via your comment and I’m pretty glad I did. Good read and good eulogy!

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      Oh, there’s nothing wrong with cookie clicker and such, I just really didn’t like my Facebook feed filled with those spammy game messages from my friends.

      Of course, that’s all ancient history now.

  • donchez@lemmy.world
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    I never thought a man could hate Reddit so much yet act like a Redditor until I saw this post