• SolidShake@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Trump is basically a sad fat kid in a classroom that just cries and screams when shit doesn’t go his way and then ruins everything for everyone else.

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            There has been a lot of greatness in US, but the people fighting the good fights seem to be losing right now. Just slowly, a little year by year. Hopefully this a kick in the pants too fucking far and we wake the fuck up and see we have to actually do something about it.

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      Maybe if that happens, computer parts won’t get a huge markup here in Japan anymore in that … ah, who am I kidding; they’ll still gouge us.

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    Lol, I’d love to watch everyone in the US paying triple for literally anything that has electronics in it.

    If Trump then wants to build chips in the US, good luck. ASML is the only one with the machines, first of all, and by the time he can buy those, something tells me they might have some extra tarifs added to them, and then paying US salaries for electronics would skyrocket prices to people having to pay four-five times the amount of what they’re paying now.

    Not saying that the near slavery conditions in Asia are fine, that should have changed decades ago, but the way trump is doing this is hilarious, people will want his head on a plattee

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      iirc the machines that TSMC uses are made in Holland right when he’s also apparently doing his best to piss of Europe, even then there’s like a decade long order backlog.

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    Trump is going to use Tariffs to try to offset making larger tax cuts for the wealthy.

    It’s better that he does this now so that we have a solid recent example to point to of how this will impact what we pay for goods.

    Never mind we have 100 years of data backing this up, people are idiots and won’t recognize the treat until it hurts them directly.

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      To be fair, we mostly have examples of how free trade reduces prices. But this reduction in prices usually wasn’t instantaneous and perceivable by ordinary folks. Because corporations wouldn’t hand out the savings to consumers until the very slow market force of competition forced them to. Tariffs will make everything more expensive and even if they are eventually culled, stuff will not become suddenly cheap again.

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        I agree, I doubt very much that price savings for any reduction in Tariffs will be passed onto the consumer. However any increase in Tariffs will immediately be felt.

        I’d rather see an increase in a single sector such as microchips to show the public the costs of Trump’s plan in real modern dollars to help build opposition. Than wait until he pushes an across the board Tariff. Which would likely result in a stagflation for the population at large.

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      In a way I’m glad he’s doing this. He’s going to inflect so much pain that he loses in a landslide in four or 8 years or whatever. If income tax rates are 0, then a new administration would be able to set them as high as they want without consideration of trying to increase them by 2 percent or whatever they do now.

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        I agree I’d rather Trump shit the bed hard and early so we can contain the damage and show the public at large what his policies will really do to them.

        But Tariffs will never be enough to offset income tax completely. I think he is going to use Tariffs to offset renewing his tax cuts for the wealthy. There are a good number of house republicans who will not go along with tax cuts if it increases the deficit. Revenue from tariffs would give him enough cover to placate those Republicans while directly pushing the cost onto US consumers who are primarily lower and middle classes.

        Even after 4 years when he is out of office and the next administration reduces those tariffs and goes back to a progressive tax system. Even reducing those tariffs then will never bring prices down. Companies will never pass those savings entirely to the consumer they will pocket the money and everyone else will be screwed.

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          The grift is obvious for anyone paying attention but a lot of his base doesn’t realize that they pay almost no tax because of credits and deductions. Tariffs will hit the working class hard.

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    And they’re not even trying to create American jobs with this crap. The CHIPS Act is paired with a “chipmaker’s visa,” which intends to import cheap labor from Taiwan to work the US chip factories.

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        You’re not wrong, but the Dems are in on this, too. They were pushing the same chipmaker’s visa when they had the reigns, so I wouldn’t count on them helping.

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          They are also billionaire’s stooges. They’re just the “good cop” part of the arrangement. When we politely accept their domination rather than rebelliously accept their domination. Those are the only two choices.

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      As someone who actually approves $$ for tech vendors in an American company, I can tell you that no matter how cheaply China-based services become, they still aren’t going to be seriously considered. Anthropic and OpenAI are based out of San Francisco. Legal jurisdiction to resolve contract disputes, breaches of confidentiality, etc. can be resolved in a fairly straightforward way between two American companies, especially when they are headquartered in the same court district.

      Chinese companies exist inside of a legal safe harbor where they have less incentive to play by the rules, and a much lower risk of consequences for getting caught breaking them. The risk isn’t worth the perceived savings.

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        One of the main features of Deepseek is that you can run it yourself. It doesn’t matter if Deepseek are based in China if you run the model on your own servers and thus guarantee that your data doesn’t leave your own data center.

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          True but you can run Linux on your own machine but it doesn’t stop anyone from paying AWS or Microsoft to handle it for them.

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            Give it 6 months and Amazon will be running this model for you “serverless” with a code name making it seem like their own product.

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            Yes but people will pay redhat Linux to use a distro with support. Also almost the entire US internet server infrastructure runs on Linux.

            So yeah a company can provide an open source product with commercial support

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              people will pay redhat Linux to use a distro with support

              never seen this happen in my 20 years career

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      I mean Puerto Rico is literally part of the US and that doesn’t seem to matter for them…

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      I’m sure that orange fuck will try to sell it to “beautiful” president Xi, or to clean it out to stop the conflict, or something like that, that bubbles up in his senile demented brain.