Democrats are shit. However, saying democrats are shit right before a presidential election when the only options are literally fascism, democrat, and third parties with ~zero chance of breaking even 4% of the vote, you’re an idiot and deserve to be downvoted.
“Hey these polices suck and alienate voters, maybe change them so you can win the election against a fascist?”
“Why would we wanna do that? We’re neck and neck with the fascists, if we pivot it will hurt us, we don’t need to swap.”
[Loses in a landslide because of the reasons people said they would lose]
We can’t have primaries, we’re told we’re unelectable and only weirdos like us as they refuse to cover winning states, rig them, or just have it then have the nominee back out and place a new one in charge without a vote.
We can’t criticize them on social media, we’re call Russian assets, secret Trump supporters, and other thought terming cliches. I had someone tell me that because on Mastodon I was on todon.eu I must be a Russian bot, as Americans can’t sign up for a website that ends .eu. As a leftist who voted for Biden.
We can’t push them left in office, the midterms are too important, the president has different tasks than what the people who voted them into office want.
When are we allowed to critize them? It’s not pre-election, it’s not after-election, it’s not in office. It just seems like we can’t ask for anything better from them because we’re somehow wanting the people who want to kill us win, when we are asking for healthcare reform and better education.
Me telling a specific user who didn’t get my point to shut the fuck up is not the same as telling people they can’t criticize Dems. Try again.
I’ve said multiple times and I’ll say it again, PLEASE criticize Dems, I am as unhappy with them as you are, but you need to understand the implications of negative messaging when the timing is critical - three months before an election IS NOT the time to get uppity about the people you already had the opportunity to elect.
Between inauguration day and July before the presidential election, please please please feel free to criticize your representatives and vouch for change. But when we’re faced with literal fascism and you have morons shouting “b-but, genocide”, that’s exactly how you get in our current situation where fascists now control our entire government because people decided to sit the election out.
So for the final time, telling people not to criticize Dems immediately before the presidential election is not the same as telling people not to criticize Dems at all. I really don’t know how to make that more clear for the people with zero fucking reading comprehension.
I don’t know, you said “Just shut the fuck up” to reasonale criticism. Sounds like this is your walking back after being called out.
“I want them criticized and called out, I just don’t think it should be done anytime any of them are running for office when it’s most important, and if you do you should shut up.”
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I never walked back, I said the same thing multiple times. At this point you’re either incredibly stupid, or intent on being a bully. I said shut the fuck up to that user because he was not getting my point. I said “until we have ranked choice voting” because THEN it makes sense to criticize a party 3 months before an election. Right now, you’re just shooting yourself in the foot (and it already showed).
“I want them criticized and called out, I just don’t think it should be done anytime any of them are running for office when it’s most important, and if you do you should shut up.”
Yes, this is basically what I said, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ll spell it out for the 50th time for you: Criticize dems, but not right before an important election, because you will push people to not vote or vote third party and fascism will win (we are here).
Democrats are shit. However, saying democrats are shit right before a presidential election when the only options are literally fascism, democrat, and third parties with ~zero chance of breaking even 4% of the vote, you’re an idiot and deserve to be downvoted.
“Hey these polices suck and alienate voters, maybe change them so you can win the election against a fascist?”
“Why would we wanna do that? We’re neck and neck with the fascists, if we pivot it will hurt us, we don’t need to swap.”
[Loses in a landslide because of the reasons people said they would lose]
We can’t have primaries, we’re told we’re unelectable and only weirdos like us as they refuse to cover winning states, rig them, or just have it then have the nominee back out and place a new one in charge without a vote.
We can’t criticize them on social media, we’re call Russian assets, secret Trump supporters, and other thought terming cliches. I had someone tell me that because on Mastodon I was on
todon.euI must be a Russian bot, as Americans can’t sign up for a website that ends.eu. As a leftist who voted for Biden.We can’t push them left in office, the midterms are too important, the president has different tasks than what the people who voted them into office want.
When are we allowed to critize them? It’s not pre-election, it’s not after-election, it’s not in office. It just seems like we can’t ask for anything better from them because we’re somehow wanting the people who want to kill us win, when we are asking for healthcare reform and better education.
Again, I’m not saying you can’t criticize Dems. Just don’t do it right before a presidential election when votes matter the most.
Well that covers a full quarter of the time where it is forbidden to criticize the party (including the time they were committing mass genocide).
I’m also going to guess you forbid criticism of the party prior to the midterms too.
Until we have ranked choice voting, just shut the fuck up.
Mask-off oppressor
That was about an hour. Good job.
Me telling a specific user who didn’t get my point to shut the fuck up is not the same as telling people they can’t criticize Dems. Try again.
I’ve said multiple times and I’ll say it again, PLEASE criticize Dems, I am as unhappy with them as you are, but you need to understand the implications of negative messaging when the timing is critical - three months before an election IS NOT the time to get uppity about the people you already had the opportunity to elect.
Between inauguration day and July before the presidential election, please please please feel free to criticize your representatives and vouch for change. But when we’re faced with literal fascism and you have morons shouting “b-but, genocide”, that’s exactly how you get in our current situation where fascists now control our entire government because people decided to sit the election out.
So for the final time, telling people not to criticize Dems immediately before the presidential election is not the same as telling people not to criticize Dems at all. I really don’t know how to make that more clear for the people with zero fucking reading comprehension.
I don’t know, you said “Just shut the fuck up” to reasonale criticism. Sounds like this is your walking back after being called out.
“I want them criticized and called out, I just don’t think it should be done anytime any of them are running for office when it’s most important, and if you do you should shut up.”
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I never walked back, I said the same thing multiple times. At this point you’re either incredibly stupid, or intent on being a bully. I said shut the fuck up to that user because he was not getting my point. I said “until we have ranked choice voting” because THEN it makes sense to criticize a party 3 months before an election. Right now, you’re just shooting yourself in the foot (and it already showed).
Yes, this is basically what I said, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ll spell it out for the 50th time for you: Criticize dems, but not right before an important election, because you will push people to not vote or vote third party and fascism will win (we are here).
Oh ok. So much for “I’m not saying you can’t criticize”.
Now it’s “shut the fuck up! You may never criticize the party ever!”
New record of one hour before they revealed their true intentions!
Sounds like what the GOP said about SCOTUS seats…
Amazing how quickly “you have to vote democrat” turned into “you cannot critisice democrats!”
I’m not saying you can’t criticize them. I’m saying timing matters. Are you dense?
What dates is it acceptable to you to criticize the Dems between?
Between now and about July 2028.
Well thanks for that completely arbitrary line. I will make sure to limit my criticism to the designated periods where it is permitted.