But let’s not allow measley facts get in the way of having a moan at nothing, shall we? Fucking EU. Forcing us to [checks notes] charge all out things using a single connector, reducing e-waste, and, uh, ensuring there’s lots of futureproofing built-in. BASTARDS.
the GPMI cable comes in two flavors — a Type-B that seems to have a proprietary connector and a Type-C that is compatible with the USB-C standard
I actually copied this from the article to come here to the comments and have a whinge about all the different USB-C standards, and here you are explaining the reason why.
The whole point of USB-C is that it’s a standardised connector that allows anyone to shoehorn their own protocol down it if they want using Alt Mode. Moreover, they can do that without breaking compatibility with other USB-C - or even just specific features - if one of the devices doesn’t speak their crazy-ass moon protocols. This is a benefit of USB-C, not a failing.
I think you could have a second connector in addition to a main USBC.
Honestly we need higher capacity for screen cables for PC. Both HDMI and display port are limiting performance because of their low, 40-80gbps, bandwidth. Their performance maxes out at 4k120hz with uncompressed HDR color. You can’t use 8k screens or multiple 4k screens without lowering quality.
I disagree with the more than 4K being a theoretical need thing but, regardless, where I work, every desk has a pair of 4K monitors that connect to the user’s laptop via a single USB-C cable. That cable also connects a keyboard, mouse, gigabit ethernet and, depending on the desk, 10Gb ethernet, multiple cameras and conference audio. The cable also charges the laptop, of course. At the moment that’s mostly done using USB-C docking stations, but we’ve started to deploy monitors that are USB-C native and can be daisychained together.
Graphics cards only come with one HDMI port though. The LG OLED is popular for 4k screens because it ticks all the boxes and is much cheaper than equivalent gaming monitors, but that means it doesn’t support dp.
And it means that you have to upgrade the graphics card just for the cable even if it is still relatively new. The point is that we shouldn’t be held back by just a cable .
Graphics cards come with as many ports as the manufacturer wants them to. My home PC’s GPU has two HDMI and two MiniDisplayPort. Also, there are cheap lossless adapters that will convert between MiniDisplayPort, DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI, etc, etc.
Also, one of the reasons the EU waited for USB-C is that it specifically supports Alt Mode, which allows non-USB-standard protocols - like this new video connector thing - to be encapsulated within it.
If it’s not usb-c it’s banned in EU. Because we stopped there and we won’t go forward.
In case anyone is wondering, yes, this is utter nonsense. The EU made USB-C mandatory only as a charger for portable devices like phones, tablets, headphones and mice. That’s all. This new standard, unwelcome as it is, has nothing to do with charging phones so there’s no reason why it can’t be used in the EU.
But let’s not allow measley facts get in the way of having a moan at nothing, shall we? Fucking EU. Forcing us to [checks notes] charge all out things using a single connector, reducing e-waste, and, uh, ensuring there’s lots of futureproofing built-in. BASTARDS.
I actually copied this from the article to come here to the comments and have a whinge about all the different USB-C standards, and here you are explaining the reason why.
The whole point of USB-C is that it’s a standardised connector that allows anyone to shoehorn their own protocol down it if they want using Alt Mode. Moreover, they can do that without breaking compatibility with other USB-C - or even just specific features - if one of the devices doesn’t speak their crazy-ass moon protocols. This is a benefit of USB-C, not a failing.
Don’t get so excited. Read my comment again.
Please don’t make stuff up.
Other stuff isn’t banned and the law already has allowances for emerging standards.
I think you could have a second connector in addition to a main USBC.
Honestly we need higher capacity for screen cables for PC. Both HDMI and display port are limiting performance because of their low, 40-80gbps, bandwidth. Their performance maxes out at 4k120hz with uncompressed HDR color. You can’t use 8k screens or multiple 4k screens without lowering quality.
Where I work, everyone has 2 4k screens. You can use two cables to connect them, you know…
And every one of them has either put their scaling up to 150% or simply set them to 2k, because you cannot read a damn thing on them.
More than 4k is a theoretical need for a veeeery small market
I disagree with the more than 4K being a theoretical need thing but, regardless, where I work, every desk has a pair of 4K monitors that connect to the user’s laptop via a single USB-C cable. That cable also connects a keyboard, mouse, gigabit ethernet and, depending on the desk, 10Gb ethernet, multiple cameras and conference audio. The cable also charges the laptop, of course. At the moment that’s mostly done using USB-C docking stations, but we’ve started to deploy monitors that are USB-C native and can be daisychained together.
Graphics cards only come with one HDMI port though. The LG OLED is popular for 4k screens because it ticks all the boxes and is much cheaper than equivalent gaming monitors, but that means it doesn’t support dp.
And it means that you have to upgrade the graphics card just for the cable even if it is still relatively new. The point is that we shouldn’t be held back by just a cable .
Graphics cards come with as many ports as the manufacturer wants them to. My home PC’s GPU has two HDMI and two MiniDisplayPort. Also, there are cheap lossless adapters that will convert between MiniDisplayPort, DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI, etc, etc.
Actually? I don’t know much about that legislation. Does it really not have room built-in for tech improvements?
It does! If there’s a good alternative it can be proposed, or that’s what I read here on Lemmy
Also, one of the reasons the EU waited for USB-C is that it specifically supports Alt Mode, which allows non-USB-standard protocols - like this new video connector thing - to be encapsulated within it.