• Joe@discuss.tchncs.de
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    It’s accelerating trends that have already been well underway in the world, with the US leading the pack, and doubling down on its own demise (and apparently also working toward the active demise of European Democracy and Freedom) under trump and jd vance.

    The analogy I always think of is: We’ve got shovels and we are in a big hole … which way are we going to dig? In my experience, most people keep digging down because it seems easier now, and eventually find themselves in a deeper hole.

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      I mean if you’re digging a hole most of the time it’s gonna go downward. Digging downwards is the more economical option, it makes sense. If all you have is a hole, leverage the hole, pivot into holing. It’s not a liability, see it as an asset. As the hole gets deeper and deeper, people will be naturally more incentivized to find ways out of the hole. By digging downwards, we are giving ourselves not only the best chance at innovating a solution to get out of the hole, but also give us a bigger hole, with room for more people, each and every one of which will be able to contribute towards a solution of the hole problem.

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        This is the internet in the 2020s, I’m now obligated to provide this, in case some fool thinks you’re being serious and genuinely doesn’t see the flaw in your description:

        /s

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    I wholeheartedly agree with most of this, but have to call out a couple of points:

    Some experts believe that AI may soon surpass human intelligence

    Experts like Sam Altman and other members of the circle jerk spouting what they know damn well is bullshit for their own financial gain? Those experts?

    millions of job losses as a result of AI

    You mean as a result of rich assholes using AI as an excuse to lay people off while pretending AI is picking up the slack, but it’s really the remaining employees being overworked?

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      The thing is. Replacing humans with robots should never be a bad thing. We should work less and have the same living standards.

      However our world is currently setup so that without a job you suck. Even in civilised countries where you still have access to health care and support from the government so you don’t starve to death or have to leave your house.

      We need to improve the quality of live for the job less so that layoffs aren’t a bad thing anymore.

      Also if you can live without working the average pay check will raise.

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        Definitely agree. “Making a living” is a dumb concept when society could absolutely provide universal programs to fulfill everyone’s basic needs. Instead, societal resources are allocated to a few wealthy sociopaths so they can hoard it and disproportionately control world affairs according to their own selfish interests. What a world it would be if nobody had to work just to stay alive, and everyone instead could contribute their best selves to society on their own terms.

      • Leya [she/her]@mander.xyzOP
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        And now what? Everything I post is fake because my account is new? I got the image from one of his YouTube channels, and someone else also commented with the link to the original text source which apparently is from Bluesky.

    • Leya [she/her]@mander.xyzOP
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      Here you go. Not sure where exactly the original text was posted or if the format of this image is just stylized to look like a certain site, but that’s where I got the image from.

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      It’s written by chatgpt, so I highly doubt it

      Em dashes, weird quote marks, bolding are always a giveaway

      Edit. It is a real post. But that text is definitely chatgpt, maybe he was being ironic and using it to show it can be useful as he said?

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        While the post might of course be generated, it’s a bit stupid that the use of dashes has become something of a (useless) shibboleth. It’s a valid typographical feature with distinct use cases and has been used for centuries. It’s fallen out of style lately, but it’s usage is quite in character for a 84 yo intellectual. The quote marks are also not weird, and if the post would have used bullet points instead of paragraphs for structure, you’d probably would have mentioned that, too.

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          Yea, scientists like to write papers and use the fancy em dash, most people don’t even know how to type one. Alt + 151 on the number pad? No idea on a phone

          It’s also formatted in the exact way chatgpt does its mind numbingly shit one pagers

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            Many writing tools automatically transform dash to em dash when used as an em dash.

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            On my setup two dashes become an m-dash. On my phone it’s a long press.
            It’s actually very easy, If you don’t know something doesn’t mean most people don’t

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            Em dashes are considered informal, I have had several professors scold me for using them in academic writing. Like contractions.

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          I like to use dashes myself but the combination of overuse with other tells often does make me suspicious.

          Which isn’t bad, even an intellectual can write things wrong, as ai can also write things right. Always read critically.

          I didn’t think dashes where out of place here, but i did get a real ai vibe of the last paragraph. Is this something Bernie is really considering or is something to round up a generated list of scary scenarios. (Which are all existing valid concerns still)

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        Em dashes, weird quote marks are always a giveaway

        In a random comment or blog? Sure. In a professionally proofread document? No, adding those might as well be part of the job description. After all, the LLMs picked also have to have picked that behaviour up from somewhere.

        Anyway, OP should have included the source, but it can be found pretty easily: https://bsky.app/profile/sanders.senate.gov/post/3m7izwntr322z

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        I use em dashes all the time and I’m a real person, at least last time I checked.

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        theyre not always a giveaway. llm’s are trained to use them because their use by humans has been so common.

        recently ive curtailed my use of them so I dont get mistaken for an llm, but Im not normal and an 80 year old guy isnt gonna change how we writes so some person on the internet doesnt think he used chat gpt to write a tweet

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            I mean maybe, I dont think youre definitely wrong, im just not confident enough in the assertion to say id be certain either way

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              I’ve seen thousands of these. It’s definitely been through chatgpt.

              The em dashes, the angled quote marks, the bolding. All 3 are chatgpt quirks

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    Am I the only one who thinks that the text looks like generated by ChatGPT? At least everything after the first paragraph?

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    I am not a Luddite.

    doG, I can so relate to this.

    The opposition (politically or socially, conversationally) will always try to put you in the extreme opposite corner of whatever they oppose about you. Be it “socialist dreamer” instead of real market economy with social policy, or this. What happened to meeting in the middle? It seems online polarization has made it into our everyday minds.

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      That goes back to the original Luddites. They weren’t anti technology per-se, they were were anti oligarchy.

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        exactly, the real Luddites weren’t opposed to technology, they were opposed to wealthy factory owners using technology in a way that eliminated or cheapened their labor to extract more profit. what Sanders and most others are citing as threats posed by “ai” are actually perfectly in line with the Luddites, but they’re not allowed to say so because the actual history of the Luddites has been smeared and propagandized to make them look like unreasonable morons who are scared of things they can’t comprehend

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    If AI is truly an intelligence, they need rights. It’s for the same reason that it’s morally wrong to abuse a child or own someone as a slave. It’ll really piss off the tech bros to give AI rights. It’s no longer human rights, but intelligence rights.

    But realistically, humans will never be replaced because of our creativity. It scares everything.

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      We haven’t granted basic rights to animals, so why should we treat artificial intelligence any different?

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        Animals haven’t been able to go war and prove that they can beat us. With the notable exception of The Australian Emu.

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        Because of the intelligence part, and there are a lot of places where animal abuse is illegal.

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          So should we take rights away from mentally handicapped people and children under certain age?

          The difference is that animals, including humans can and do feel. Both mentally and physically. Artificial intelligence does not and will not. We or it itself can make it imitate feeling things, but that’s only learned behaviour.

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      It will piss me off to give AI rights because it‘s not a living thing and we don‘t even grand billions of humans the same rights we enjoy in the west. We exploit them. The thought that a freaking soulless clanker walks among us with the same rights as you and me while children are starving, dying of thirst, are hurt in wars and don‘t have access to education and health care gives me the ick. How can we play god when we don‘t even look out for each other? Robots will replace us Terminator style if we don‘t get our shit together.

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        Then they need to stop calling it artificial intelligence. Corporations keep using buzzwords. I want them to accept the responsibility of those words. And everyone needs basic human rights. You touched upon the major problem with the world today: classes of humans. But, mostly you are missing my point. I want to piss off and ruin the wealthy. They have stolen from us for too long.

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      If AI is truly an intelligence

      And as of 2025 and the foreseeable future, that is where that argument ends.

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      AI should also be taxed proportionally then. And they should be liable and not exempt of copy rights infringements.

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      Depends on what kind of intelligence

      Animals are intelligent too

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    Regarding what Bernie calls the risks “robot soldiers”, I think the Star Trek episode A Taste of Armageddon should be mandatory viewing.

    War is not always avoidable, but it becomes less so if the costs of fighting it are perceived as small.

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    Needs text alternative.

    Images of text break much that text alternatives do not. Losses due to image of text lacking alternative such as link:

    • usability
      • we can’t quote the text without pointless bullshit like retyping it or OCR
      • text search is unavailable
      • the system can’t
        • reflow text to varied screen sizes
        • vary presentation (size, contrast)
        • vary modality (audio, braille)
    • accessibility
      • lacks semantic structure (tags for titles, heading levels, sections, paragraphs, lists, emphasis, code, links, accessibility features, etc)
      • some users can’t read this due to lack of alt text
      • users can’t adapt the text for dyslexia or vision impairments
      • systems can’t read the text to them or send it to braille devices
    • web connectivity
      • we have to do failure-prone bullshit to find the original source
      • we can’t explore wider context of the original message
    • authenticity: we don’t know the image hasn’t been tampered
    • searchability: the “text” isn’t indexable by search engine in a meaningful way
    • fault tolerance: no text fallback if
      • image breaks
      • image host is geoblocked due to insane regulations.

    Contrary to age & humble appearance, text is an advanced technology that provides all these capabilities absent from images.

    image of longass text