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They hate’us cause they anus.

An echo chamber for calling CA liberal? That’s just well documented reality my guy.

You don’t care about US politics, which means you probably don’t know much about them. So it very much seems like you’re speaking about something you don’t care or know about. Then when I, a person who does very much care about US politics, chimes in with insight you call it an echo chamber.

Honestly, it seems like you want to just say whatever you like and then rant and dismiss anyone who knows the topic and pushes back. Ironically, that sounds exactly like how an echo chamber works lol.

Yeah, controlling the town square. It’s worth him sinking money into it if he can get favorable tax laws passed as a result.

Of? Companies leaving CA due to liberal laws? That’s kinda been CA’s thing since forever.

Ok, and what else? I mean saying it happens all the time and listing one doesn’t really prove the point.

That was super bad, and bad things like this do happen. Just saying it’s all the time seems like it’s really hyperbolic.

You see CrowdStrike level of bad all the time? Where? What? Who?

It’s the new block chain or NFT hype, they think it’s magic.

The irony is companies are being forced to implement it. Like our board has told us we must have “AI in our product.”. It’s literally a solution looking for a problem that doesn’t exist.

The word “can” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. A lot of things “can” have negative effects.

Oh Jesus… It’s not about how many you interact with it’s the scale. A companies tech team is a fraction of the size of the call center.

Call center software is an outlier. Just that massive multiple billion dollar software industry. I mean who even uses Salesforce right?

But you were assuming people weren’t hourly. So you were assuming you could have people work forced overtime, skilled workers, with nothing going wrong? Oh boy, bold management tactic.

My view is survivor bias sure.

And you’re view is based on anecdotes and assumptions. Things you’ve seen that you assume applies to the entire industry because you’ve worked in QA. Well I’ve worked at multiple companies, in roles from product to engineering, working myself up to the level of CTO. I talk to other CTOs and understand how their teams run and fail. I have to make decisions that keep our tech going and deal with consequences when they aren’t. So forgive me if I don’t put a ton of stock in your statement that “quality doesn’t matter” when I’ve had multiple conversations with executives and multiple experiences that prove that to be false.

Bottom line is, I’ve told you my point of view, you disagree, that’s fine. You don’t work for me, I don’t need to worry about it. If you truly think quality doesn’t matter and that’s working for you, have at it.

Jesus dude, your still on this, I wrote off this convo forever ago.

This will destroy Crowdstrike. They will not exist in a year. This is not “just a blip” lol. Many companies have collapsed over much more than this.

You make so many assumptions. How do you know they didn’t test it? How do you know a wrong build didn’t go out? You’re entire stance is based on assumptions fed by anecdotes from limited experience.

Most companies, mine included, try to roll out updates during the middle or start of a week. That way if there are issues the full team is available to address them.

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Yes, so let me introduce this concept called “swing states” where it is not like NY. There, votes matter. So them voting does matter and have an impact. Either way, even if you know your state will go one way, the outcome of the election is still very impactful to citizens.

You said the presidential election should be the least concerning election for everyone. That’s just wrong. Swing states have power and the president can impact everyone. It is very consequential to multiple people.

If you’re upset that NY is always blue blame republicans who are against getting rid of the electoral college and having rank choice voting.

Or you can just keep insulting me because I disagree with you, that’s a very Republican move.

But sure, over turning Row v Wade hasn’t impacted you directly so it doesn’t matter. No one should be concerned about the president because big changes to law haven’t impacted you so they shouldn’t matter to anyone. Jfc… Some people were impacted you know, you are aware of that right? And that was a direct result of the president that was elected selecting a conservative justice. But hey, it didn’t effect you so it shouldn’t matter to anyone right?

“Presidential elections in NY are the least concerning elections as they should be for every fuckin American.”

You can say I have a comprehension issues all you want, but you seem to think all voters shouldn’t care about the presidental election because it won’t impact you in NY, big lol.

Revenue is one of the metrics that since stock prices. There are many, but the point is it’s not just all random speculation, it is metric driven.

Maybe I “miread” what they’re saying because they’re not expressing it correctly. You said quality doesn’t matter in products, the stock market is all just guess work, and that you can’t run a 4:1 QA to dev ratio. All that is just clearly wrong. You’re saying these things so matter of fact like but they make no sense to anyone who’s worked with those things.

No… People’s perceived value did not make the stocks go up. You said I misread, you clearly didn’t read what I said. COVID impacted revenue in an unpredictable way, that impact to revenue effected the market. Lots of crazy stuff happened during COVID, not all of it effected revenue. You act like the stock market is a bunch of people guessing, like there isn’t a massive skill to it. Knowing what to look for and what to track, that’s how a lot of investment firms work. Hiring people who watch market behavior and metrics.

When you buy stock you’re investing in a commodity, just like gold. The value of that commodity is then impacted by many factors that can effect the value of that commodity. It’s not just guess work and make believe lol.

No no no. They do not set the ratio like it is knowing they will purposefully do a bad job. Anyone with half a brain can explain to a board why that’s a bad idea and the risk around it. Do you have any proof at all that companies knowingly build up a dept that will cost them a bunch of money and only prevent issues sometimes? No, that’s absurd. I have seen first hand as a developer, a QA resource cover up to 5 people without issues. I have managed teams, still do, that have a 1:4 ratio and keep up. It can be done and has been, just because you’ve not experienced it doesn’t make it impossible.

Yes, this company taking some risk like in a movie, beeting them to market. And what if their solution causes massive issues due to QA not catching some critical bugs due to cutting corners. They forever lose that entire market. They company could be out of business instead of being able to still compete in that space. No investor would risk money like that. Where are you getting these ideas from?

You’re doubting my credentials, this is hilarious. Here’s a news flash, most of the employees using software at scale, like say Salesforce, are call center hourly employees. If you actually sold SaaS for as long as you said you have you’d know this, because it’s part of a savings analysis you do in pitch decks. So ya, I’m starting to doubt your credentials.

Yes yes, not every single person will hang out in their job, but look at the market. It is flooded with talent with no place to go due to everyone having layoffs. You do not have a lot of power as a prospect right now, so people stay put for the most part. Anyone who is in management would realize these things as people start leaving less and you’re flooded with applications when you open a position.

Yes, people who refuse the free overtime will go, so you have more people you need to rehire, which is very expensive. Have you ever managed a P&L before?

Amazon does this because they have an infinite supply of applications wating due to them being in the Big 3. Not every company has that pull.

Well first, you can lie, it’s the Internet, it’s known to happen from time to time. You could be older but I find that idea worrying and a little depressing.

Secondly, me pointing out that saying “presedetail elections should be the least concerning to everyone” is just straight ignorance. I mean you don’t even seem to understand the impact of the Supreme Court on every day citizens alone (abortion rights much) and how they are appointed, why would I bother sift through your nonsense comments lol.

Either way, hope you get some good information/education from all the responses people are giving ya! 🍻

The stock price is perceived value. Many things go into that perceived value, such as number of clients and revenue. I mean it’s not just a random roll of the dice like you seem to be implying.

Sure, revenue can go up and stock price go down, but that would be a very small dip that would recover ASAP, that’s how the stock market works, off of numbers. And showing YoY or even MoM growth bumps the stock price, almost every single time. If you disagree I would love to see examples showing the counter.

“How do layoffs make revenue go up? Yet they often make the stock price go up.”

See this is kinda what I’m getting at, again no offense, but you’re speaking on topics you don’t fully understand. Layoffs does not make revenue go up, but it makes EBITDA go up, which is the actual number most companies care about. Topline rev doesn’t mean much on it’s own. If you make $1 mil in a year, that’s great topline revenue, but if it cost you $980k to make that, you’re not doing well. You can make that $980k go lower through layoffs. Your revenue will be the same, but your EBITDA will jump because you reduced expenses. That’s how value can go up with rev changing. It costs you less money to make the same amount of money.

“If the stock prices was super dependent on metrics, algorithms would be making soo much money we wouldn’t have anything else picking stocks.”

No… I mean, it’s just frustrating I have to explain all this to someone acting so confident. The stock market runs off metrics, yes, it does. But the things that effect those metrics are not just some alrogithm. You can’t anticipate how the tech sector will react to new technology, but if you see a company’s revenue going up because of new tech, that’s a good enough reason to invest. It’s not that the stock market is all guesses, it’s that it’s driven by metrics that are not always clear to everyone engaging in the stock market. For example, the stock markets can run off real estate revenue, and invest based on that, what it could not magically compute with an algorithm is how COVID would impact that revenue. Hence it is “perceived” value, not actual value.