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  • If 80%+ of rides is 2 people or less, I dont think it make sense to necessarily make a purpose built vehicle when you already make a vehicle you sell to consumers that can fill the small gap? (Edit and I dont mean use their cars, but their own internal fleet like they use today)

    Thats a lot of capital expenditures for a small slice of the rides, of which you wont even be the only company serving.

    They are also working on a purpose built small bus type vehicle, but that wont be a hail for 3 people kinda thing, itll be for routes that people get on/off of.

    My bet is theyll make another vehicle they can sell to consumers for personal non taxi use, but will also be cheaper and work for the up to 4 or 5 people taxi rides. So not quite purpose built, but with some intentions towards it.
















  • I was just looking into this a bit more, “managed to get out appropriately” is potentially actually going through the bollard after it fucked up.

    It broke the law going in there, but reversing through the intersection (crosswalk) to get out is also against the law in Austin and many many places.

    I know a lot of people do it (and I think I’ve seen a Tesla do it before too) but if you’re stopped at an intersection and you fuck up and are slightly in the crosswalk, you’re in most places, not allowed to back up. If you back up, you could actually be cited for 2 infractions, one blocking the intersection, and then another for the backing up. (edit: and in this case, it’s just a matter of property damage if they go over it, and they’re plastic because they know people will hit them, which is also sad)

    I really doubt the car was smart of enough to realize I’m not allowed to reverse, and i could safely drive over this though. I think something else in its decision making process happened with failures all over the place.

    I can’t wait to see what the NHSTA report on this one says, hopefully there’s some meaningful info in it.

    Maybe we’ll even hear it called home for help and a person drove it over? There was one report where a support person remotely drove it into a chain at slow speed.


  • Im not saying it should, and in this case and have clearly said what it did was wrong.

    Im just trying to reason out how or why something like that may have happened, and at first bad map data seemed like it could be part of it wtf went wrong. (edit: even OP said they looked into it, implying they thought that might be a factor too!)

    Road says go right. Oh shit its tight but I can make it. Im fucked. YOLO!!!

    And yes, it shouldn’t have ignored the bicycle signage or the white line.

    Have you never driven around a construction local traffic road only sign that gets placed in the middle of the road or blocking a lane? AVs need to be able to do weird things like this, but in the correct situations, which this was not.


  • It did take the obstacles into account though at first. It was going very slowly and managed to squeeze itself into that bad spot, before ultimately realizing it was stuck and deciding to go over them once it had gone too far (I would love to know how the fuck it decided to do that last part though)

    What it didn’t take into account from the start was the white line or bike lane sign, but those first bollards on their own it made it past.

    If it had bad navigation data, that could have conceivably played a part, but bad map data seems less likely given there’s an image of that intersection from 2024.

    Everything about this was still very bad obviously, but even if it wasn’t the case here, bad map data could get you into a bad situation like that if you can drive between the initial bollards.