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  • I see why people use downvoting this way, especially since that was the norm on reddit which a good portion of the base fled from, I find the same issue I had with downvotes on reddit to apply here as well though. I try to advocate down votes to be not out of personal opinion, but a reflection that the content is either useless or harmful to the existing conversation. This allows posts that are actually useful and contribute to the discussion to exist even if they are unpopular to peoples opinion. Just because you don’t like the post, doesn’t mean the post isn’t true or useful, which is why I find that form of downvoting ideology to be harmful overall.

    That being said, I would find the parent comment you replied to as constructive to the conversation…Up until they started egging people on with “is getting people super angry” I wouldn’t call this being downvoted for not agreeing, I would call it being downvoted for not being constructive to the post at hand(as there’s no need to actively try to get people to rage at you with a post like that)


  • I’m not 100% sure where the confusion is coming from so I apologize in advance for the ignorance. Yea universal as in you can do everything there. I’m not sure how the term universal would mean there can only be one. It would be counter productive to the freedom of the internet to have it that way. I would prefer to be able to access everything from one app. Would save a buttload of space on my phone and would make things universally easier by having the same interface across everything. I would prefer it to not be twitter since the platform sucks, but I wouldn’t be against something like that and thats the wonderfulness of the internet, you can have more than one service doing the same thing.

    The term universal and distinct are not mutual, unless I misunderstood the definition of universal somewhere

    A good example of this would be pideon, I used to use that as a service to be able to access XMPP, IRC, Skype (back in the day), and google chat. Universal app that could be used for all my social needs, without having a monopoly.










  • Ain’t that the truth, IRC was arguably the easiest service for me to set up, it had all the defaults basically set I think I only have the change one or two settijgs and open the ports, anything else was optional and it came with all the bells and whistles (of what you can get out of IRC… lol)


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    I expect there probally is, I only briefly looked at the integration system and the bridge system nothing really caught my eye but it would make sense that since they’re looking for more IRC feel that most of your basic moderation perms would be through a bot of some sort kinda like how chanserv was


  • I apperently had tried element out using a matrix.org account at some because when I went on the client I was already logged in, I vaugly remember it but it didn’t really give a great first impression.

    anyway, I decided to look around it again to give it another shot, I really don’t think it’s a good idea to relate it to Discord, the documentation itself says it’s more similar to IRC than Discord. It lacks fairly basic features that you would expect to see in a current day chat service, for permissions example: they do have basic permissions and they’ve stated that more coming but there’s no way to fine tune them for example if you want to give the ability to delete message you need to give the ability for every permission under the below the redact message permission (which is hard set at perm level 50 if I remember right). This in my opinion is actually worse than IRC in that matter, as with IRC I could fine tune someone to have Channel topic editing permissions and the ability to hide that they are there but I didn’t necessarily need to give them disconnect or Banning permissions at the same time and visa versa.

    I’m sure it’s perfect for some pieple but, I’ll stick with modern day implementations till they give a bit more control, but I’m pretty certain with the current spec it’s not possible at this time


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    Looking into Matrix…(again apparently because I had an account already logged in on element) I hate to say it but, I can’t forsee myself ever using that. It’s waaay too complicated while simplistic at the same time. There is a permission system but, this is more similar to IRC then discord. Graphics wise it’s super basic and easy to use, but I can forsee that being way too much of a pain to moderate or administrate on.