It took me too long to get everything working myself because people love to share shit exclusively in CLI format and look down at anyone who asks for YAML it seems, so I’m always glad to pass it on

(I can understand CLI, but the ADHD brain finds YAML much easier for documentation purposes and it surprises me how many people seem to disagree)

Ok, had my wife send me the file from my network

networks:
  main-network:
    name: ${COMPOSE_PROJECT_NAME}
    attachable: true
    ipam:
      driver: default
      config:
        - subnet: configure
          ip_range: this
          gateway: yoself

services:
  # Gluetun - <https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun>
  gluetun:
    image: qmcgaw/gluetun
    container_name: gluetun
    networks:
      - main-network
    cap_add:
      - NET_ADMIN
    environment:
      - PUID=${PUID}
      - PGID=${PGID}
      - TZ=${TZ}
      - VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER=custom
      - VPN_TYPE=wireguard
      - VPN_PORT_FORWARDING=true
      - VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER=protonvpn
      - WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES=use your own
      - WIREGUARD_ALLOWED_IPS=0.0.0.0/0
      - WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY=nope
      - WIREGUARD_PUBLIC_KEY=69420
      - WIREGUARD_DNS=
      - VPN_ENDPOINT_PORT=
      - VPN_ENDPOINT_IP=
    volumes:
      - ${DOAPPDAT}/gluetun:/gluetun

I left in the wireguard stuff without my details because for me Gluetun refused to work when setting the exact same info to wg0.conf, so I define it in my compose

Then, services that rely on gluetun go below and look like:

# qBittorrent - <https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/qbittorrent>
qbittorrent:
  container_name: qbittorrent
  network_mode: container:gluetun
  image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest
  depends_on:
    gluetun:
      condition: service_healthy
  restart: unless-stopped

Works perfectly when I run it through portainer

So those are actually the exact same thing, apparently

More googling lead to the smarties Wikipedia page, which says the Dee family also owns Swizzles Marlow, and the first product on their page? Refreshers, bi-concave candy disks!

What works for me:

Networks first in docker-compose

Gluetun first in Services, uses the network I set for it and the stack

Everything else goes below it, relying on the gluetun CONTAINER (I plan to have another stack running gluetun for other reasons so having it check the service is a no go for me) to be running in a HEALTHY state

All are set to restart: unless-stopped except gluetun, which is never

The expected behaviour is that containers will always wait for gluetun to report that it’s healthy before trying again to restart. Should gluetun fail and crash for any reason it won’t reboot and potentially fuck itself up harder, and no services will be able to start because it’s not reporting healthy.

This works perfectly in portainer and should when running docker-compose up, but for me it took portainer to work. Saw someone somewhere mention it has some sort of priority handling override built into it that docker itself doesn’t, meaning it’s less likely to fuck that lind of thing up, but idk how true it is

I’ll see if I can remember to snag a couple snips of my YAML to make it more clear

My main 2 reasons for installing it both come from needing to restart services sometimes:

Portainer let me allow other people access to restarting specific containers that occasionally misbehave

Portainer lets me update and restart all of the containers running in my VPN stack without breaking. For some ungodly reason, even with dependency set and everything in docker-compose, a CLI reboot will basically always start a service or 2 before gluetun is actually advertising it’s in a healthy state and everything breaks. With portainer that doesn’t happen, with the exact same compose, and I don’t get why lol

on your furniture?!

Carpet counts as furniture?

Otherwise, no, I don’t tend to walk on my tables, chairs, and couch very often. If I do need to do that for some reason I tend to do it barefoot for the grip, tho

I don’t really do this but I knew people who did growing up so I’ve got experience:

Laced shoes go on for big outdoor trips. If you’re walking around your yard or the immediate area it’s loafers/flip-flops/Crocs/etc, something you can slip on/off easily as you come in/out the house

It’s not really much of a time investment at all except if you live where it gets rainy and muddy, because then youre gonna put on more hardcore outdoor shoes like wellies

Just googled it out of curiosity:

Our smarties is because those ones hadn’t made it over from the UK yet, so it got the “I was called that first” power

Looking at it I’ll tell ya right now that’s a proprietary slot right over that plug

Dremel it out and any normal cord will work, that’s anti-consumer bullshit

“Good luck with/have fun with that!” In a pleasant tone while gesturing towards the act being done is enough, I’ve found

Unless it’s clearly like, WORK, work, then something like “don’t work too hard, there!” Is common

I assume the route calculations happen on device as they work in offline mode, but that doesn’t explain sending me the objectively slower way when it knows what the traffic is like

Also my alternate route passes more businesses, meaning it’s not some “well advertise to him” bullshit

I turned OFF the “prefer eco routed” setting thinking it might be that, but no dice

Yeah, about 2 months ago I noticed it no longer recommending a slightly alternate route on my way to work that lets me bypass a potentially 20-minute red light (bad light timing)

If I turn and do it myself it goes “oh shit you right” and gives me an updated ETA and shows the route, but it WONT show the expected slowdown anymore and WONT even suggest the alternate route

Ok i get it, it’s best practice to do rushed releases without QA because users are the free testers.

You literally used the wrong version. As I stated: the app you’re talking about clearly states it does not have a stable release for the version of nextcloud you’re running.

They definitely had no way to know that their own app was incompatible

They knew, and told you, right on the app page

Idiot user who believed their newsletter "update now, hub 9 is the best thing ever

You said it, not me. I tried being nice but that really is what happened: you fell for what the marketing team wrote and skipped basic IT steps in doing so. Now, rather than just admit you made a mistake that a LOT of people have made (including me, I’m a fucking idiot too) you are whining and doing your best to me talk gymnastics this into you being a victim of something

How you managed to convince your IT department of anything with a knowledge that shallow and an attitude like that I’ll never know. Grow up.

then a bit of warning is suggested

Which was given by the app that gets broken by the update

Windows doesn’t tell you that upgrading to 11 will break x, y, and z that you have installed, you’re expected to go to the sites for those programs and check if they work. Same exact idea

The same company making both apps is never a guarantee that they’ll play nice day 1, for many reasons

I’ll repeat: learn from your mistake instead of blaming other people for your naivete. If an app is important and might break during an update of something: check the apps documentation to see if it supports said update

Literally just googled “nextcloud forms” and looked at their supported versions and whaddya know, it says right on that webpage that there’s no stable version for 30 yet, so safe bet would be that it wouldn’t properly work when upgrading:

There is a supported nightly build, though, so you could probably have tried that

It’s on you to look up what will break when you update, or to test and see what happens when you do. A major update page isn’t going to list all of the things that rely on it that break because that’s fucking unreasonable

I’m starting to see a pattern in those comments like “why did you wear a skirt that night? It looks like you asked for it…”

Cute victim mentality, but gross and insanely wrong comparison

Learn from your mistake and don’t update without testing next time, it’s 100% on whoever updates the production environment to make sure that shit isn’t broken for whatever reason before pushing it customer-side

It’s more like you bought a random white powder from your dealer without asking what it was and are now upset you almost died

My parents both openly smoked weed in front of my from a young age. I was told that as long as I was home by curfew and didn’t come home in a cop car they were fine with me doing basically whatever cuz they knew I wasn’t a complete moron (my dad worked in the school system and knew all the ACTUAL problem children really well, they hated me because of that so I never got to be a hoodlum lol), though my nugs WERE taken from me at 15 because “you were dumb enough to let us catch you with it” which is fair but I say they were out and bumming off of me without saying so lol

As for sex I got a quick talk about using a condom after my dad caught my GF and I doing it, but otherwise it was left mostly unsaid cuz my sex Ed wasnt trash

Because they’re 2 different types of vehicle

You’re inside the moving vehicle and should you not be attached to it you’ll bounce around the inside or go flying out the window in a crash

A motorcyclist is not contained, and thus it’s dumb to attach them to the dangerous and heavy metal should a crash occur. We instead require protective gear (unless you live in a shitty state) so you get less injured if you go flying

Proton

Mullvad is good like the other guy said but Proton has port forwarding, which if you don’t wanna be a HnR jerk you wanna do

Or, alternatively, you can bootstrap into a fine red mist as you get stuck to it and violently flung about

Lathes rule