Thanks for the highlight.

As much as I despise them, that’s actually impressive. I wonder how long it will last.

Was this not obvious at the very least when his own board kicked him to the curb due to an inability to trust him?

Please don’t put words or intent on me. I’ve been very direct, and at the very least was not attempting to imply any such ideological agreement.

My minor point was to associate him with what appears to be the main source of his household income. No more, no less. Everyone can decide how much that means to them as they wish.

Judging from the excerpt quoted in my original comment, it has at least been renamed to StudioLab.

counts as him making points from an unsavoury position

Didn’t say that it did. It’s just something that I didn’t know until recently, that I have only seen brought up once in the decade plus of Cory being treated as an important source of truth in this sphere.

I’m not trying to say that it somehow makes him full of shit or anything. Personally it gives me pause about some of his previous rants, and casts a minor amount shade on his position. But I also personally feel that the merits of a point made matter significantly more than the source.

I intentionally said nothing more than the fact itself in my original comment. Everyone is welcome to decide how important or not it is to them personally.

It’s exactly the kind of thing that people tend to use to challenge someone’s position, so I understand the confusion. Just wish people would stop coming at me like I kicked their puppy for bringing it up.

you keep restating the seemingly-identical position

Yes, because it was literally the only thing I was trying to bring up, as I have stated repeatedly.

I’m not the one confused here. I’ve been straightforward about the incredibly minor point I was making. People should know who his wife works for, as it may influence their feelings on him.

Simple as. No more, no less.

Could it matter? Maybe. Maybe not.

Almost everyone responding is jumping to all sorts of conclusions about what I really meant by bringing it up. I just thought people should know the fact, as I had never seen it ever brought up until recently. For myself, it casts some of Cory’s previous rants in a different light, but I’m not actively trying to sway things in any direction here.

I am getting real tired of people responding with basic ass “gotchas” pointed at shit I didn’t say or bring up though, and declaring themselves some sort of winner in an argument I was never having.

Edit: Me responding so much is that I’m attempting to make it clear to every single chucklefuck. It really doesn’t have anything to do with investment, as I’m having an incredibly slow day. The investment is some stupid wish that I’m not being misunderstood, which seems inevitable at this point. More attempts at clarification that I wasn’t trying to impugn his credibility seem to mean the exact opposite due the little trap of “if you don’t care, why are you responding so much?”. Because I’m some degree of ASD and have trauma from childhood about being misunderstood. Chill.

Fun Fact: the current head of Google’s search is the same guy that was in charge of Yahoo’s search right before they folded their own search and just started licensing Bing.

… yes. I’m not an idiot, thank you for the implication otherwise though. That’s always nice.

Perhaps you’re not familiar with just how outspoken Cory has been about all of this sort of stuff over the years. I think his wife’s job is an important disclosure that has not been made, so I highlighted it. Same as a youtuber disclosing a video was a sponsorship, it could impact how their words should be interpreted, but it just as easily might not effect things in any significant way.

I’ve made my very minor point. I even specified in my initial comment that she is very likely involved with DRM, but not guaranteed to be.

I’d love to hear any counterpoints besides the effective equivalent of “how dare you point out a potential problem with our guy”.

Only you can decide how much or how little his wife’s job means. I just wanted people to be aware.

Only if you take it that way. I’ve said nothing about his point being questionable, and it wasn’t my intent.

For me this is more about that his status as a free software/internet icon for well over a decade should be tempered, if only slightly, by knowledge of what pays his bills.

Cory has self styled and been treated as a free software icon for well over a decade. The whole enshittification thing is just the latest thing to bring him back into the public eye.

It doesn’t invalidate his point whatsoever, but it’s important to know that what pays his bills is all.

It’s no longer Makielab, as it was acquied by Disney. What they actually do now ias a subsidiary is unclear beyond the quote from her Wikipedia page, especially as her personal site linked to by Wikipedia is down.

I spent a good chunk of my teen years on 4chan, I’m normally the one pushing the idea that a good point is valid regardless of the source.

Anyway, I edited my comment and I’ll copy that here: Didn’t say this to invalidate his point, mostly wanted to highlight something that I find most people don’t know about him. It’s something I think is important considering how much he styles himself as an idealogue/icon for technological freedom. He still makes good points, but the position he’s doing it from should be known is all.

Lol, no. Also, big diff between associating with and being actively married to.

Anyway I’ve edited my comment and I’ll repeat tye edit here: You all are reading way too far into me bringing this up. Didn’t say this to invalidate his point, mostly wanted to highlight something that I find most people don’t know about him. It’s something I think is important considering how much he styles himself as an idealogue/icon for technological freedom. He still makes good points, but the position he’s doing it from should be known is all.

Friendly reminder: Dotorow’s wife is a director of a Disney subsidiary highly likely to be involved with DRM.

Ms Taylor is now the Director, StudioLab at The Walt Disney Studios. In that role she is responsible for ensuring that Disney continues to invest in the intersection between online tech and content distribution.

EDIT: You all are reading way too far into me bringing this up. Didn’t say this to invalidate his point, mostly wanted to highlight something that I find most people don’t know about him. It’s something I think is important considering how much he styles himself as an idealogue/icon for technological freedom. He still makes good points, but the position he’s doing it from should be known is all.

In addition to your good points:

a world where Mozilla is actively engaged

That doesn’t have to mean a world where Firefox itself is involved in this engagement, despite her insistence that it for some reason must be. Firefox is not Mozilla as a whole.

Chromium manages (obsfucated binary blobs from google still being included aside)

She’s not particularly wrong, but this highlights the problem for me.

Why does the corporate arm behind one of the last “free” browsers out there need to become involved in this clear conflict of interest?

Why does this need to be developed as core functionality in the browser codebase instead of as an addon like most of the previous experiments?

There is repeated insistence that this is key to the future of the web. I don’t neccessarily disagree. I disagree entirely that this should have any direct contact with the Firefox project. Create a separate subsidiary within Mozilla for this shit. Anything to maintain a wall between the clearly conflicting goals.

This all reads like a new CEO coming in hungry to make a mark rather than actually just be a steward to keeping business as usual going.

I love the two comments calling out that this thread was posted to the help subreddit rather than any of the other more appropriate subs for changelogs.

Like come on, you know that wasn’t an accident.

According to the Ryujinx (Switch emulator) Mac M1 branch maintainer, they literally did send people to the home of Ryujinx’s lead dev in Brazil.

So we might already be there.

Every cyptocurrency could replace fiat currency and traditional banks. Get back to me when one actually makes inroads on that.

Also with Firefox having effectively the only feature complete open source browser engine, personally I could care less if they might have implied negative things about the better crypto currencys.

Everyone is welcome to their own opinion, but this is incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things.

It does suck that we have all this tech but we won’t let it talk to each other because rich people have to get richer

This is my biggest personal disillusionment and frustration with the world. If companies would commit to open interoperable data standards and allowing access through APIs, there’s so many things in life that would be better. We could have our tech actually work for us.

GoG, and physical games are only licenses as well. If you have any physical games from the era of instruction manuals you can find it laid out clearly inside, generally towards the end.

But GoG’s offline installers and physical games can’t be taken from you by the publisher etc (servers for online games and updates aside).

Neither can installed copies of games if you write protect the files, back them up where the launcher can’t get to them, etc. Licensing, DRM, and legality really aren’t the defining factors here. There are shades of better or worse, but at the end of the day it’s about simply being able to back up the media in a form that can’t be touched by the corporations.