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    From reading about Omarchy and community reactions it sounds like DHH is a successful grifter, milking money from corps with pictures of agentic promised land. HOWEVER grift will go bust at some point: does anyone remember SaaSpocalipse that did not materialize,along with numerous articles from people with degrees pointing out that there’s no data supporting claim that AI is actually making money for it’s peddlers or consumers. AI grifts will continue until “market” will finally acknowledge it for what it is (it’s just a new shiny tool, no more) and all the myths go bust and investors will want their money back. So - yes money got “stolen” from actual OSS projects that keep world’s lights on, yes vibecoding has not been proven to scale or endure multiple decades like Debian, Gentoo, Fedora etc. so it’ll collapse from technical standpoint, but it WILL collapse unless DHH will start applying those grants towards hiring engineers. Token money are not worth paper they are printed on so everybody just chill and let this trainwreck go off the cliff on it’s own. Shame DO got into it though… but for all the major cloud platforms who isn’t supporting fascism? What differs is the scale.

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    Seems like everything is being run over by fascists these days.

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      Honestly that may be the entire point of this. The right wingers are trying to carve out their own corner in the world of FOSS. Understandable given the spirit of open source is literally the antithesis of what they believe in, however they also can’t ignore it now cause it’s vital infrastructure.

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    I am not an Omarchy or DHH hater but…why? It’s Arch with Hyperland, why are people fawning over it? Is it just because he keeps saying “agentic”?

    I’m agentic too, how about throwing me a million bucks?

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      It’s not about being a “hater” or not. DHH is basically a white supremacist and it should be basic human decency to oppose that

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        Most of the people going on about him take a lot of umbrage with his racist ideology, but all he seems to do with it is blog. If there are more material concerns (like with Proton) then I’m not seeing them be raised.

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      People who have raised money before are better at raising money. Not that I fully understand why they throw so much at this project. But I don’t also quite understand why some projects get billions just like that.

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        networking plays a big roll in such things. the more connections you have, the more possibilities. in my job that is normal as well ( not for donations, but it’s important to get a job)

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    Okay I’m seeing further chicanery. Their GitHub repo gives the license as MIT but many of the components are not Omarchy originals but derivatives of other products under different licences. Quickshell is LGPL 3, for example, and of course the Linux kernel is GPL 2.

    But then there’s a guy working on the “Omarchy Kernel”, which I guess is a derivative like Ubuntu does…

    Personalities aside this is still weird, and I wish people would focus on that.

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      I don’t think that matters here. NixOS is also MIT licensed.

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        The nix package(?) system, sure, but the eponymous OS of course has parts under a diversity of licenses, including a GPL kernel.

        What I don’t get/trust if how Omarchy just slaps an MIT label on its GitHub even when I can see software in there that I know use different licenses.

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    I have a meeting with a DigitalOcean Account Manager scheduled for tomorrow because I wanted to move my business over from Azure. Guess it’s time to cancel it and tell them why.

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      It’s a shame, I actually really liked their service when I used it. There documentation in particular was really excellent.

      Good luck finding a non-evil (or at least less evil) service, sincerely.

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      This is hilarious

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/23/israeli-military-gaza-war-microsoft

      Yes, go with the MIC, actual fascist supporting megacorp to stick it DO

      Honest to God, I’m not a tin foil hat kinda guy, but I can’t wait to read the papers on the strategies around centralizing technically adept ‘activists’ (WH definition lol) onto cooperative platforms by hugely exaggerating tiny shit like this in 40 years. This is even more poorly sighted than the Mullvad stances from a few weeks ago.

      How many killings did digital ocean orchestrated with AI?

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    There goes my weekend migrating off of DO. I should have left sooner but supporting this crap is lighting a fire under me.

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      im not very knowledgeable about the current situation. can you enlighten me? why the sudden surge on digitalocean hate?

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        Precisely because of what is described in the post.

        Omarchy is an Arch-based Linux distribution created by a person with questionable political views. Many in the Linux community will go great lengths to ensure not a single penny of theirs gets into his hands.

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          He doesn’t have “questionable” political views, unless you consider open xenophobia and fascism no more than questionable. He went beyond questionable a while ago and into being truly unpleasant and promoting harmful ideas.

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        Left-of-center people hate DHH and by extension everything he does and everyone he networks with because “he’s a fascist”.

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    WTF. Why not contribute to Arch, Cachy, KDE, Inkscape, Krita, Kdenlive etc. Omarchy is just a meme distro of half arsed dotfiles. How is hyprland better than Niri or Cosmic built on Smithay which are at least written in an over hyped safe modern language. Why are some d-list tech celebs dotfiles better than my quickshell config? And how about we sponsor something that would make a real difference to people like better accessibility in Gnome and KDE or is that too woke these days?

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      If you announce yourself as a fascist, the fascists will pay you. Its how most of them make their living; the rest steal from their employees

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      How is hyprland better than Niri or Cosmic built on Smithay which are at least written in an over hyped safe modern language.

      Or i3/sway for that matter.

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    But why? Why is everybody funding this piece of shit? Besides being shit politically it’s also shit technically. I don’t get it.

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      It’s not about the software. It’s about creating a far right pipeline. Like they did with gamers and anime. Billionaires pay for users.

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      Well, you see, it’s somehow using AI and it’s run by a dick.

      What’s not to love about it?

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      Guy who made a popular thing once announces revolution in efficiency, looks impressive on the surface but is just desktop riding for the uninitiated.

      I’m more flabbergasted how little what you have to do to get 3 million

      EDIT: Changing this up as I’m sure a lot of people work hard on this thing and perhaps more did before this guy outed himself as a douche

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          GoPro was kinda washed… They had huge success early but they thoroughly over-saturated their own market and then stagnated in the face of competition. Maybe about a week ago announced they were now an AI/datacenter company…

          Point is, if you slap an AI label on just about anything someone out there will give you money

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          A youtuber with a large following bought a substantial share in GoPro. I think it is is a comment on how immature stans are subservient to their para-social relationships and throw their money at men they idealise instead of working to improve themselves. Comparing Markiplier with DHH is really unfair to Markiplier but its all the same weak minded exploitable herd behaviour. It doesn’t matter if you are a preacher, politician, con artist, influencer or OF model - manipulating fools seems to be part of the human condition.

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    but why? its a shitty distro made by an amateur. there are real who needs support

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    Is this some new money laundering thing? Are companies “buying in” to hobnob with other wealthy people? Is this just the latest Country Club or whatever?

    I seriously don’t understand why all these companies are throwing money at a project that is almost assuredly going to “mismanage” it.

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      If I had to guess, this is the techbro/epstein crew trying to get a foothold in Linux. The writing is on the wall; Windows is dead, and they want to funnel the migration into their new Omarchy ecosystem. They’ll probably start advertising bigly once Kushner and MBS invest.

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          I think they might mean that Windows is ultimately a dead end. I agree that its far from dead, but Valve really got the ball rolling with Proton.

          Now that there’s a bunch of bigger influencers “trying Linux” as a daily driver and often having a good experience, coupled with Windows/Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot every other month, I think we’re seeing a shift in people’s perception (at least regarding what their possible options are). That said, Linux still has a ways to go until it even breaks 10% desktop share, and I don’t think it will be a threat even to Apple until Linux hits 15%.

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          To be honest, I think you are the one lying to yourself here. From the linked report:

          Productivity and Business Processes $37,847 14%

          Intelligent Cloud $39,306 32%

          More Personal Computing $12,854 (4)%

          “(4)” equals “-4”.

          Even MS isn’t using windows exclusively. And they don’t care, as the long term scenario they are aiming for, is, that everybody only uses a minimal system and rents compute in the cloud. That’s, where the money is for them. I am quite sure, they don’t give a single eff, what those devices are using as an OS. It won’t be win 11 for sure.

          So everything Windows as we know it, is what’s consumer GPUs are to Nvidia.

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          Even Microsoft knows Windows is dead. That’s part of the reason for the push for office365 over locally installed applications. It’s not dead as in everyone will stop using it next year, but it’s dead as in it might only have 10 years left as THE dominant desktop OS, maybe more, maybe less.

          What they’re really ingrained in business with is their ERP bullshit. Migrating a bunch of users from Windows to Linux is cheap and easy compared to migrating all your data AND users from Dynamics to SAP or Odoo or something. It’s such a headache, you basically never do it in-house, you contract that out to a company that specializes in the ERP you’re moving to. Because it’s not just data you’re migrating, it’s business processes too. Bunch of custom modules usually need to be created, yay!

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            Can confirm, switching ERP or billing systems is a risky multi-year nightmare with a price tag that makes even larger corps blush.

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              And then you have the updates! That’s fun! They sell ERPs as SaaS, but it doesn’t work like any other SaaS. The major updates break tons of shit because your own customizations will be based on upstream fields and methods that no longer exist. Not as bad as migrating to another ERP entirely, but not exactly cheap. At work, we keep support for our custom modules for longer than the ERP company itself supports those old versions so our customers get an extra year or 2 out of it. It’s a pretty big deal for them and of course great for us, helps retention because they’d have to spend more for less if they go to the competitors (on even the same ERP that is - going to another ERP wouldn’t just be a migration cost, the annual cost itself would go up too).

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                At my previous job we handled much of this in house because we were a rather large company and could do so. We ran into the same things because our bolted on processes would need to be maintained indefinitely because every ERP system update tended to break things in unspecified ways. I no longer need to do this sort of thing, but if I never have to write code for legacy IBM systems again I’ll be happy.

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        Isn’t Omarchy built on top of Arch Linux? I wonder what sort of effect it will have on Arch to have companies injecting millions into this downstream project?

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      My bet is that the tech bros hang in the same bar, and they’re just doing that for fun, and they don’t really care about the plebes not getting it.

      Glad I left Digital Ocean like almost a decade ago, yet it still feels I’ve been with them for too long.

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      When capitalism can’t find a new way to grow and is challenged by dominees, it funds fascism as an investment towards to guarantee their dominance

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      Is this some new money laundering thing? Are companies “buying in” to hobnob with other wealthy people?

      👨‍🚀🔫 always has been