• affiliate@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    ”Money making is a skill,” the website states. “We will teach you how to master it.”

    step 1: convince people to pay you 50$ for access to your deranged ramblings.

    there is no step 2

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    7 hours ago

    Wonder how many were bots, like Ashley Madison, that exist to pump numbers and increase engagement

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    2 hours ago

    Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?

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      I don’t even think it’s Andrew Tate specifically and I think that’s a big problem.

      I’m in my early 30s and grew up being ‘the tech generation’, adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something’s and even teens and they’ve surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.

      Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they ‘like it’.

      I guess what I’m saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.

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        I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.

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      There’s very much a vacuum for what healthy masculinity looks like, and shitheads like Tate are filling that void

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          It makes me sad, especially knowing my son is going to face the same propaganda. I just hope to arm him with the knowledge to see past it.

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            Knowledge and unconditional love should do the trick 🤞I have found that the men most prone to this are men with a chronic lack of love and self-esteem.

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    5 hours ago

    Data brokers will now have a new set of identities for Insecure White Male with No Financial Literacy.

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    10 hours ago

    Read the article, it’s so much better than the headline lets on. Trolled him, email addresses, full forum and chat content, etc.

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    11 hours ago

    Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.

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      One of the takeaways of AM being hacked was that a ton of accounts were fake, and existed to create the idea of a busy site, to add social proof and validity-by-numbers.

      The AM hacks were like decade and change ago, and Tate’s fanbase is mostly younger. I’m sure there is some overlap but probably small.

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      11 hours ago

      At 50$ a pop it’s 40 000 000$ Grifters gonna grift ! Sometimes I hate that I have morals stopping me from exploiting those morons.

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        It’s worse than you think; it’s $50/month!

        Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).

        So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.

        I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.

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      15 hours ago

      i think registration and actually sending any money will be two separate steps, but it is still lot of dumb people.

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        Yup, was one of the first bits I thought of too…

        I still paraphrase his “your stuff is shit, my shit is stuff” to this day… 😅

        We really need someone to fill the massive shoes he left behind - an individual able to call out all the egregious bullshit.

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    12 hours ago

    It’s interesting, the first time I saw a picture of Tate I only saw cringe, and that has not changed.

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    11 hours ago

    It’s hard not to feel bad for aimless young men who get tricked by this guy.

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    800.000 people?

    Talking bullshit seems to pay very good

    <edit> yes not everyone was paying, but still: </edit>

    If accurate, the site at minimum would generate upwards of $5,650,000 every month.

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    I take as a positive point that I had no idea who this Andrew taint guy was before the he was arrested or whatever the fuck.