• DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Damn if she’s not racist she should stop implementing racist policies and using racist rhetoric that endangers immigrants and minorities then. I’m sure it’s all just a big misunderstanding.

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        It would be one thing if you only talked about the policies being essentially the same and having the same outcomes.

        But you brought up rhetoric, and the rhetoric is not the same, and that gives people leeway in saying you’re being misleading.

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          So being racist towards Palestinians isn’t racist? Is that what you’re saying?

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      Are you just going to ignore the racist and xenophobic talking points by Harris about how immigrants are bringing fentanyl to kill US citizens? Or Harris bringing up the factually incorrect claims about Hamas members and Palestinian men sexually assaulting Israelis, based on racist colonial tropes. Or how Harris was a top prosecutor that spent her entire career locking up minorities. I could go on and on, the entire debate consisted of the candidates trying to outdo each other with the amount of racism they were spewing.

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          No one claims that donald isn’t a racist, but every time kamala is correctly identified as also being a racist genocide supporter you get chucklefucks like yourself standing up to defend the integrity of a person who has a whole ass racist career behind her and is currently supporting a genocide. We don’t ignore trump, it’s just that his supporters are gleeful about the racism instead of browbeating everyone about the moral superiority of their preferred imperialist.

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          All trumpanzees so obviously need to be rounded up and shot that it’s not even worth mentioning. It’s libs like you that need to be called out for trying to use faux progressivism to justify the exact same shit trumpanzees want.

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                  ‘Dissidents’ like they’re some powerless minority being oppressed and that their dissent isn’t over the value of human life. This is why we say that liberals are the same as fascists. “Sorry freemen, if we crack down on the whites killing you and passing black codes, it’s just not a democracy!”

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                    Ah yes, peak anti-fascism: declaring your political opponents to be monolithically evil to justify their execution. Half of all American voters are subhuman scum that must be cleansed to bring about democracy.

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                    You can, if you stop abstaining or voting third party out of protest. You can’t blame the electoral system for being ineffective if you don’t use it right.

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          The Biden administration (of which she is a part) continues to send weapons to a state that is openly using those weapons to commit a genocide, and Kamala has plainly stated she has no intention of stopping the flow of those weapons. What other way am I supposed to interpret this, exactly, other than her being pro-genocide?

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          “Not in the way you want”

          Oh fuck you, how put upon. You’re the real victim here, having to deal with moral scorn. Boo fucking hoo.

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            You’re trying a little too hard to discourage people from voting for Harris. That is, it’s a little too obvious.

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              They just don’t like genocide and she supports a genocide. Everyone knows Trump does, so there’s is no need to say anything about it, but Democrats like to pretend they don’t. If that makes you feel uncomfortable for supporting her, it probably should. Genocide was considered the biggest possible evil in the world until the Dems started supporting it, too. The fact that it seems wrong is why people talk about it, because liberals say they feel bad about it so some of them can be pushed on the issue to resolve this contradiction through to doing something about it, while Republicans gleefully cheer for it, so there’s no reason trying to convince them to do anything.

              We need to live in those uncomfortable feelings because it might actually force us to think about them and change some shit, or to at least realize the system is fundamentally broken. It can prompt questions, like If we can’t vote out a genocide, do we live in a good democracy? Why are some issues up for debate and not other issues? If our system and democracy is broken, should we be stomping around the world criticizing others’ in Venezuela, China, Cuba, Mexico, Bolivia, etc? Is there a different reason we do so, like imperialism? Have other claims about the US being the good guy at all times been wrong as well? What current propaganda are we buying into? When people confront these wrongs and ask questions about why things are the way they are, it can also encourage them to study history and capitalism to find out why.

              Or, you can be like those outside the DNC, rushing past the protestors, closing your eyes and plugging your ears, then act surprised and distraught when your life is made worse because the adventures abroad from candidates you supported blow back on us through terrorism, fascism, and immigration. But if we never think about the contradictions of our own positions and policies, we’re no better than the cult of Republicans, are we?

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      And Trump’s solution to the genocide is nuking Gaza.

      If you’re using Harris’s stance on Palestine/Israel as a reason to not vote for her, you’re an idiot.